RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-06 Thread Nick Parkes
2010 14:40 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a lot more people. It's not a problem

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Chris, Is there any way to dynamically create these contexts or do they require a live.xml, test.xml, etc within conf/Catalina/localhost. The multiple contexts would be my preferred approach although I would like to achieve this with a single code base if this is possible. The multiple

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Chris, See comments below:- Rob, On 10/4/2010 7:27 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: Using the hostname doesn't really guarantee a unique session for example if I click new tab and paste the URL into the new window I suspect the browser will see the same session from the first tab. Note that

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Ronald Klop
Rob, IE 6 is even more confusing. If you open a new window with ctrl-N you have the same session sharing as with tabs. Only if you click the IE6-icon to start a new instance of the process it will not share them. Opening a new tab in IE7 is like using ctrl-n to open a new window in IE6.

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Ronald, Yes I was aware of that behaviour... Just for reference Firefox and Google Chrome also share session logic so I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a lot more people. I am happy that my work around solves the session sharing problem but would still prefer to go down the dynamic

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Stephen Caine
Rob, The way you describe session sharing is indeed a problem. The way we deal with this is to use a separate database table to keep track of window ids. A unique value is assigned when a window is opened and maintained until the window is closed. Although the session may be the same for

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Stephen, The approach we use was described in my original post. If you need more information then I can explain further if it helps. Note, our approach does require a bespoke tomcat request class (to change the session cookie path) and this has not been without teething problems. Are you also

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a lot more people. It's not a problem for most because most don't try to run live, test, and training inside a single Context

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a lot more people. It's not a problem for most because most don't

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Jeff Hubbs
Our app running on Tomcat 5.0.28 has some kind of kluge involving a flown-in vhosts.xml file in .../conf that uses aliases such that people can have separate sessions of the same app on separate tabs. I have no idea if this is how this should have been done back in the olden days but more

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Jeffrey Janner
/context? -Original Message- From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:40 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Subject: RE

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
[mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] Sent: 05 October 2010 15:26 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. I agree, this is a very scary app to support. At a minimum, multiple contexts, each with its own database resource definition would avoid a lot

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 5:03 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: Sounds like you need to be pretty careful. Is it possible you've built a fragile application? Some legacy parts of the application became fragile when the browsers started sharing sessions and this

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 4:26 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: Is there any way to dynamically create these contexts or do they require a live.xml, test.xml, etc within conf/Catalina/localhost. You can use JMX or the manager to deploy an application under any

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Chris, In Internet Explorer 5.5,6.0 if you opened up two separate browser instances they would have two 'un-connected' sessions. As stated by Ronald they would share the session if the 2nd was opened using ctrl-n but otherwise the sessions would be unique. Cookies may have always worked as

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Maximilian Stocker
: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:51 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi Chris, In Internet Explorer 5.5,6.0 if you opened up two separate browser instances they would have two 'un-connected

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
to see if anyone could suggest a better solution. Thanks for your input. Rob -Original Message- From: Maximilian Stocker [mailto:m...@talentoyster.com] Sent: 05 October 2010 16:03 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. This application

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 11:28 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: Basically we are stuck with some legacy application parts that while these are scheduled to be replaced we have to support them until they have been. Using filters would not solve the issue as the

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Rob Gregory
application dynamically creates these environments. The application is not internet facing if that makes a difference. Regards Rob -Original Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 11:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tabbed browsers sharing

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Rob Gregory
a virtual context as part of the final solution. Kind Regards, Rob -Original Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 12:15 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi, Ok. I didn't understand that somebody

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 11:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. You can run your test environment on another hostname. live.example.com test.example.com train.example.com Maybe use

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
You can run your test environment on another hostname. live.example.com test.example.com train.example.com Maybe use a login.example.com to redirect you to the right url after login. Ronald. Op maandag, 4 oktober 2010 11:03 schreef Rob Gregory rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com: Hi Tomcat

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
-Original Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 12:15 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi, Ok. I didn't understand that somebody chooses an environment dynamicly. The JSESSION cookie is tight

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ronald, On 10/4/2010 6:11 AM, Ronald Klop wrote: You can run your test environment on another hostname. live.example.com test.example.com train.example.com Or under another context: http://www.example.com/live http://www.example.com/test

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/4/2010 7:27 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: Using the hostname doesn't really guarantee a unique session for example if I click new tab and paste the URL into the new window I suspect the browser will see the same session from the first tab.