Re: Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Ryan Sonnek
I've been investigating performance of the wicketstuff-scriptaculous project quite a bit recently. Scriptaculous is not what I would call a "lightweight" javascript package, but the beauty of wicket is that they automatically gzip javascript files, and can optionally minify the libraries. This *d

Re: Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Korbinian Bachl
well, i think you mix up with wicket-stuff-project size (the size you download and deploy) and the size you have in the end the user to load. for example look at wicket-contrib-yui. if you download it, its some megs big, but it only puts small JS libs to the client using these actually (there

Re: Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/13/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > because i am not a javascript developer, really if I was deep into > javascript maybe i will have my own library and do this. You could try to rally people who can help you with this :-) I think that it is also a matter of developing enou

Re: Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Ayodeji Aladejebi
because i am not a javascript developer, really if I was deep into javascript maybe i will have my own library and do this. like i said, this is not a critic move so no bashing On 9/13/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so why not start your own integration project? people who work

Re: Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Igor Vaynberg
so why not start your own integration project? people who work on those are scratching their own itch, and to them the download size is probably not an issue. -igor On 9/13/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > peace peace peace, am not trying to critizise anyones project. i am >

Opinion::javascript frameworks for wicket stuffs

2007-09-13 Thread Ayodeji Aladejebi
peace peace peace, am not trying to critizise anyones project. i am overwhelmed by what i find in the wicket world everytime just an opinion about wicket stuffs i think javascript contrib projects where the javascript library is larger than say 100KB may not be worth it in some projects, i would

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-06 Thread bmarvell
been discussed here already. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -Matej >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 9/5/07, bmarvell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> &

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Igor Vaynberg
ality". > > SO to summarize :) are there any thoughts about using a single, supported > framework in wicket and moving forward from there? > > Cheers, > > Ben > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/JavaScript-Frameworks-tf4383060.html#a1249481

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Sam Hough
n of mootools (although I may be wrong). Do the >> Wicket >> >> >> core >> >> >> >> team plan on supporting and enriching this hand rolled framework >> >> >> alone? >> >>

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Johan Compagner
gt; >> >> >> available such as jQuery, Dojo or Prototype? I believe you have a > >> hand > >> >> >> rolled version of mootools (although I may be wrong). Do the > Wicket > >> >> core > >> >> >> team plan on supportin

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
rolled version of mootools (although I may be wrong). Do the Wicket >> >> core >> >> >> team plan on supporting and enriching this hand rolled framework >> >> alone? >> >> >> Surely it would make more sense to choose one of the main JS >

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Johan Compagner
working on what will > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> inevitably > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be

RE: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread William Hoover
+1 -Original Message- From: bmarvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:19 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: JavaScript Frameworks Sorry, Again mine is coming from a very front end perspective ie writing JS in a progressive enhancement style

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
>>>> Why >>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>> wickets core JS framework not use one of the main JS frameworks >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Matej Knopp
t;> >> that > >> >> have dedicated teams of devs supporting it? > >> >> > >> >> Also I've found that Ajax widgets in wicket seem quite "here and > >> there" > >> >> in > >> >> their implementatio

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
about a framework and its rich functionality". SO to summarize :) are there any thoughts about using a single, supported framework in wicket and moving forward from there? Cheers, Ben -- View this message in context: http://www.nabb

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
a >> >> datepicker >> >> for example). Doesnt this go against what JS frameworks are trying to >> >> provide? Choosing a decent framework such as jQuery or Prototype will >> >> give >> >> the developer a

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
gt;>>>>> >>>> frameworks >>>> >>>>>> that >>>>>> have dedicated teams of devs supporting it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also I've found that Ajax widgets in wicket seem quite &

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
ted framework in wicket and moving forward from there? Cheers, Ben -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JavaScript-Frameworks-tf4383060.html#a12494810 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
Choosing a decent framework such as jQuery or Prototype will >> >> give >> >> the developer a solid toolkit on which they can build, so extra >> >> components >> >> such as datepickers or custom widgets can be applied as "Plugins". >> >> Stickin

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Johan Compagner
jQuery or Prototype will > >> give > >> the developer a solid toolkit on which they can build, so extra > >> components > >> such as datepickers or custom widgets can be applied as "Plugins". > >> Sticking > >> to one framework reduces h

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Gerolf Seitz
o extra > >> components > >> such as datepickers or custom widgets can be applied as "Plugins". > >> Sticking > >> to one framework reduces hits to the server, bandwidth, load and > >> processing > >> times all of which im

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
duces hits to the server, bandwidth, load and >> processing >> times all of which imho are good things. >> >> My worry at the moment is that the demos in wicket are very "lets get it >> working on the frontend" and not "lets thi

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Matej Knopp
ng on the frontend" and not "lets think about a framework and its rich > functionality". > > SO to summarize :) are there any thoughts about using a single, supported > framework in wicket and moving forward from there? > > Cheers, > > Ben

Re: JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread Gerolf Seitz
d things. > > My worry at the moment is that the demos in wicket are very "lets get it > working on the frontend" and not "lets think about a framework and its > rich > functionality". > > SO to summarize :) are there any thoughts about using a single, suppor

JavaScript Frameworks

2007-09-05 Thread bmarvell
are there any thoughts about using a single, supported framework in wicket and moving forward from there? Cheers, Ben -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JavaScript-Frameworks-tf4383060.html#a12494810 Sent fr