Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Sam Hough
Perhaps to keep us newbies happy a pointer in the javadoc to what to do if you want vanilla Java Bean behaviour might be handy. I just pulled a face and put it on my todo list to change. Anyway, I still can't decide between the verbose solution with tool support and concise magic without tool sup

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
in principle a lot of things are doable :) -igor On 8/28/07, Kent Tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > igor.vaynberg wrote: > > > > yeah, but you are forgetting that you will also need the compound > variant, > > blah blah. before you know it you have replicated a bunch of the > > hierarchy

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Kent Tong
igor.vaynberg wrote: > > yeah, but you are forgetting that you will also need the compound variant, > blah blah. before you know it you have replicated a bunch of the > hierarchy. > like i said, lets have a vote, propose as many variants of this as you > want > and we can see where it goes/what

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
yeah, but you are forgetting that you will also need the compound variant, blah blah. before you know it you have replicated a bunch of the hierarchy. like i said, lets have a vote, propose as many variants of this as you want and we can see where it goes/what people prefer. -igor On 8/28/07, Ke

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Kent Tong
igor.vaynberg wrote: > > cmon, there are plenty of things you can abuse in wicket, or any other > framework. that is just the nature of the beast. as framework developers > we > put out features and hope that our users know how to use them responsibly. > we cannot continuously cater to newbie u

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
cmon, there are plenty of things you can abuse in wicket, or any other framework. that is just the nature of the beast. as framework developers we put out features and hope that our users know how to use them responsibly. we cannot continuously cater to newbie users, we have to cater to power users

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-28 Thread Kent Tong
igor.vaynberg wrote: > > i really dont think this is breaking encapsulation. i will concede that > there is one case where it can break encapsulation and that is when you > start out with what is publically accessible and then later you change > your > mind and make it completely private, but fo

Re: Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-26 Thread Igor Vaynberg
the processing impart would be nil because we cache a lot of the information. however forcing wicket annotations on middle tier objects is not a very good approach. if people really wanted to do this they can create this kind of annotation themselves and then install a security manager that would

Re[2]: Alternative to Wicket data binding

2007-08-25 Thread Oleg Taranenko
Hi Igor and Eelco, Sorry, for interventing in your discussion :) May java annotations can help us? Say [EMAIL PROTECTED]/Write or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ever to protect all bean. It would protect the field from accidently access in Wicket modelsĀ  without any assumption on set/get functions.