[USMA:8882] RE: prefixes hecto, deka, deci, centi

2000-10-30 Thread James R.Frysinger
One sometimes sees the dekameter (dam) used by meteorologists and oceanographers. Jim On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Dennis Brownridge wrote: > The hectometer (hm) would be convenient for flight altitudes, if aviation > ever metricates. -- James R. Frysinger University/College

[USMA:8881] Re: odd 440 mL Guinness can

2000-10-30 Thread Ma Be
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:29:58 kilopascal wrote: >2000-10-30 >... > I just wish they would drop that one extra ml on the label of > small bottles and just label them "340 mL" >... IMHO what really matters is that the final result be a rational size. Since all these juice cans come with a 3-can

[USMA:8880] RE: odd 440 mL Guinness can

2000-10-30 Thread kilopascal
2000-10-30 I just wish they would drop that one extra ml on the label of small bottles and just label them "340 mL" greg Saskatoon SK Canada Or better yet, add 9 mL more and have a more rational 350 mL. John

[USMA:8879] RE: thousands separator

2000-10-30 Thread Dennis Brownridge
I suppose this Swiss convention (is it supposed be a prime or a typewriter-style apostrophe?), like many others, would be useful as a thousands-digit separator. But I understand that in some countries a prime is used as the decimal marker (can anyone verify this), and it could also be confused wit

[USMA:8878] RE: 341 mL bottles?

2000-10-30 Thread chris
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:37:44 -0700, "Dennis Brownridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What bottles are these, Greg? They must be old 12 Imp fl oz bottles = 6/10 >Imp pt.(= 341 mL). Our beer and soda bottles are all 355 mL (= 12 U.S. fl oz >= 3/4 US pt.). Chris made a mistake: 3/4 Imp. pt. is 15 Im

[USMA:8877] RE: 341 mL bottles?

2000-10-30 Thread Dennis Brownridge
What bottles are these, Greg? They must be old 12 Imp fl oz bottles = 6/10 Imp pt.(= 341 mL). Our beer and soda bottles are all 355 mL (= 12 U.S. fl oz = 3/4 US pt.). Chris made a mistake: 3/4 Imp. pt. is 15 Imp. fl oz, not 14 2/3 Imp fl oz. All of which shows how ridiculous these old volume unit

[USMA:8876] RE: Alt144 S ... Way off topic.

2000-10-30 Thread Bill Potts
I wrote: > IBM must have a penchant for obscurantism, as I haven't found tremma used > other than in their literature (and in some 18th century Italian poetry). > Even the largest of my dictionaries doesn't include it. I finally looked in my Cassell's German/English English/German dictionary. Wit

[USMA:8874] RE: prefixes hecto, deka, deci, centi

2000-10-30 Thread Dennis Brownridge
Gustaf has raised an important question. When the English-speaking countries decided to metricate, why did they generally suppress the prefixes hecto, deka, deci, and centi? Can anyone give us a documented historical answer? In the United States, for example, multiples like hectogram, deciliter, a

[USMA:8875] RE: Fw: Les Accents

2000-10-30 Thread Bill Potts
Scott: It's not really odd. The three-digit version is straight ASCII (ISO 646). The one with the leading zero conforms to an ANSI standard (I forget which one). Microsoft allows both. The ANSI standard is more useful as it covers a wider range of characters. Bill Potts, CMS San Jose, CA http:/

[USMA:8873] RE: odd 440 mL Guinness can

2000-10-30 Thread Gregory Peterson
I guess Canadians fall comfortably in the middle. Big Rock Brewery (Calgary AB) sells some of their popular brands in "500 mL" bottles - - a metric pint! I just wish they would drop that one extra ml on the label of small bottles and just label them "340 mL" greg Saskatoon SK Canada >>> "De

[USMA:8872] RE: Fw: Les Accents

2000-10-30 Thread Scott Clauss
> > Metric prefix for micro, as in microgram, microliter > > Alt230 µ µg µL Interesting I've alway used "Alt0181" for µ. Both work. Here is "Alt230" => µ. Both select the same box in the character map too. To a former mac user this seems od

[USMA:8871] RE: Guinness beer

2000-10-30 Thread Gregory Peterson
It's been awhile since I last bought some Guinness (I think it was March 17th?) The 440 mL rings an bell. I don't ever recall seeing the Imperial/US flozes on the can. 440 mL is too small for an Imperial pint (568 ml) and American flpint (473 ml). Did Ireland, at one time, have its own pint? Or

[USMA:8870] Attention California residents

2000-10-30 Thread Don Hillger
Another message from the USMA Executive Director: "Please call the attention of Californians to the upcoming Proposition 35 on the California ballot this election. Proposition 35 passage would allow California to hire commercial contractors to handle the building of California Works projects, su

[USMA:8869] next Metric Today will be coming out late

2000-10-30 Thread Don Hillger
The USMA Executive Director and Metric Today Editor, Valerie Antoine, asked me to send you the following message: Valerie Antoine has been fighting the flu, so the newsletter will be pretty late this time. In addition, the Sep-Oct MT was mailed in mid-September and some members received their co

[USMA:8868] RE: Alt144 S and capitalizing the Alt140 "

2000-10-30 Thread Joseph B. Reid
>At 7:19 -0700 00/10/29, Joseph B. Reid wrote: >>I don't how to get my computer to produce an ae ligature. >>Joe > >Try the combination "option + a". On my Mac with a French keyboard, >it effectively gives an "æ" ligature. > >Bill, your "æ" was received correctly on my Mac with Eudora > >Louis T

[USMA:8867] RE: Guinness beer

2000-10-30 Thread Joseph B. Reid
>I asked because the type of ounce (US or UK) affects its size and hence >the conversion to milliliters. > >Jim > >kilopascal wrote: >> >> 2000-10-29 >> >> I think it was the floozy ounce. I keep forgetting, there is more than one >> type. Why, do you ask? >> >> John It would surely be dishone

[USMA:8866] RE: odd 440 mL Guinness can

2000-10-30 Thread Dennis Brownridge
On this subject Chris Keenan wrote on 1999-01-24: "[English] Beer was originally in half-pint and three-quarter pint cans [284 mL & 426 mL]. However, they were never labelled as such; I believe the regulations at the time forced them to say 9 2/3 fl oz and 14 2/3 fl oz. 440 ml was the closest 'me

[USMA:8865] United Airlines Hemispheres magazine

2000-10-30 Thread Don Hillger
I've noticed the last couple time I've flown on United that their Hemispheres monthly magazine uses mostly metric when referring to foreign destinations. In the October issue, "15 Fascinating Facts: New Zealand" uses one distance in miles in the sub-title, but otherwise the units are SI only with

[USMA:8864] Re: gasoline in litres

2000-10-30 Thread Karl G. Ruling
>I'm not surprised that people don't go around figuring their fuel >consumption, whether it is in litres per 100 kilometres, or miles per >gallon. What purpose is there in it anyway? If you already own the car and >you have to get around, what reason would you care how much fuel it burns? >Ther

[USMA:8863] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread Bill Potts
Please ignore my response, below. Brain fart. Bill Potts, CMS San Jose, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Bill Potts > Sent: 2000, October 30 06:48 > To: U.S. Metric Association > Subject: [USMA:

[USMA:8862] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread Gustaf Sjöberg
"Hooper, Bill and or Barbara" wrote: > > The cm and cL are two of the most useful units in everyday-metric system. > > I don't argue that they are not used at all but only that they are less used > than the powers of 1000. Gustaf's opinion is that they are among "the most > useful units". My pers

[USMA:8861] Figures of speach remain!!

2000-10-30 Thread Howard Ressel
There was an interesting article in a magazine called "World Highways" which is always 100% metric although its published in England. Even articles about US Construction are SI. Headline:"Going the Extra Mile" it was about asphalt plants. Guess some figures of speech will remain with us fo

[USMA:8860] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread Bill Potts
Bill Hooper wrote: > A system of prefixes that consist only of powers of 1000 I think you mean "every 3rd power of 10." Bill Potts, CMS San Jose, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

[USMA:8859] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread han.maenen
Quoten "Hooper, Bill and or Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Han criticizes my argument against learning and using the prefixes centi > deci deka and hecto by saying: > > > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [USMA:8839] Re: Cribsheet > > > > The prefixes centi-, deci-, deca and

[USMA:8858] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread James R. Frysinger
There used to be a prefix for 10 000, namely, myria. One can see it listed in the U.S.'s Metric Act of 1866. It is all well and good for people to have their preferences for use or nonuse, but those are personal opinions which a person my reflect in his or her usage of the SI. The authority for t

[USMA:8856] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread Hooper, Bill and or Barbara
Han criticizes my argument against learning and using the prefixes centi deci deka and hecto by saying: > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [USMA:8839] Re: Cribsheet > > The prefixes centi-, deci-, deca and hecto are fully recognized side by side > with the 1000-pattern and Gusta

[USMA:8854] Re: UK: poll in Sunderland

2000-10-30 Thread Hooper, Bill and or Barbara
We always have to be careful about numbers such asa those in Chris Keenan's message (below), not because they are wrong (they're NOT), but because they can be used in CORRECT statements to give INCORRECT impressions. One can correctly say that 68% of the people want to keep imperial measures. Th

[USMA:8857] RE: gasoline in litres

2000-10-30 Thread Hooper, Bill and or Barbara
John asks (see below) "what reason would you care how much fuel (your car) burns?" I regularly check my fuel economy, John. I do it to make sure my vehicles are running properly. A sudden change in fuel consumption rates may indicate a mechanical problem. Gradual changes indicate the gradually i

[USMA:8855] Re: Cribsheet

2000-10-30 Thread Hooper, Bill and or Barbara
Gustaf asks: > From: Gustaf Sjöberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [USMA:8830] Re: Cribsheet > > What is this idea about only using 1000-multiples? The idea is that, of the twenty (20) prefixes in SI, sixteen (16) are powers of 1000 and only four (4) are not. Those four are deci, centi, deka an