[USMA:10629] Fw: What do you propose we call ourselves? [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]

2001-01-23 Thread kilopascal
> What ought we do call folks who are metric zealots, people who are pro-metric, people who are in favor of metrication? Metricationist does not sound like a very perky word. I want something that sounds good, that has a postive and optimistic and fighter connotation. Give me some help. > > Andy

[USMA:10628] Fw: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America

2001-01-23 Thread kilopascal
> Come check in with us at > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/metricAmerica > right away. > > This is 2001, the turn of the millennium. > > 1. Help us think of ways to connect > metrication with the turn of the millennium. > > 2. Help us think of a word for folks who > are zealots about metricatio

[USMA:10627] Re: IEEE disappointing

2001-01-23 Thread Bruce Hebbard
Speaking of IEEE Spectrum, I always look forward to the excellent January (Technology Analysis and Forecast) issue... But I was a little nervous on reading this month's contribution "The Myth, the Law, and the Spectrum" (by Martin Cooper, pp. 62-63)... "The first transatlantic transmission in

[USMA:10626] Re: IEEE disappointing

2001-01-23 Thread James R. Frysinger
I've just gone to my IEEE online site and scanned the articles found by searching on "Bluetooth" and that I had access to. That amounted to two Spectrum articles in the last several months. I scanned each of those for "foot", "feet", and "yard" with null results. Other journals were listed but I'm

[USMA:10625] Re: slowing down the speed of light

2001-01-23 Thread James R. Frysinger
Jay Leno's quip about this was "So what. The power companies in California bring light to a halt in whole sections of a city at a time!" No, the "old" definition is still good. That hinges on the speed of light in a vacuum, not in a material substance as this experiment used. Jim Gregory Peters

[USMA:10624] RE: IEEE disappointing

2001-01-23 Thread Nat Hager III
I don't get a feeling of IEEE backing away. The Wall Street Journal regularly talks about Bluetooth, and I'm pretty sure I remember a lot of obvious "33 feet" translations appearing in the text. And occasionally the WSJ is starting to quote things in hard metric. Nat > > A colleague has just

[USMA:10623] IEEE disappointing

2001-01-23 Thread chris
A colleague has just got hold of an IEEE Guide to Bluetooth. I was somewhat surprised and very disappointed to see references to the range of the system to '30 feet' and '300 feet'. In another IEEE Proceedings I saw references to pounds in one of the research papers. I thought the IEEE required

[USMA:10622] UK: Spectator article

2001-01-23 Thread chris
I was pleasantly surprised to find the following at the weekend. The Spectator is renowned for its right-wing views (it's part of the Telegraph group), so it was unexpected: IMPERIAL MADNESS Ross Clark will shed no tears for the metric martyrs in their defence of a system that helped destroy t

[USMA:10621] RE: the whole eight metres

2001-01-23 Thread John Tauxe
My understanding of this term is that it is from a nautical origin. A traditional square-rigger would have three sails, with as much as three yards each, so that when all the sails are out, you've got the whole nine yards. It's amazing how many "origins" there are. Does the OED have an etymo

[USMA:10620] RE: the whole eight metres

2001-01-23 Thread Scott Clauss
At one point I heard, but can not confirm, that this was a WWII term. It stems from the fact(?) that the ammo belts on the fighter planes were 9 yards long. To give someone the "whole nine yards" meant to unload the magazine on them. Scott C > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[USMA:10619] Inquiry before TABD

2001-01-23 Thread Ma Be
Hi, folks, Wouldn't it be time that some (or all!...) of us get in touch with TABD to inquire about the status of the FPLA legislation update effort? After all, they claimed they'd support a change in this piece of legislation to allow for metric-only labels in the US!... Marcus PS: BTW, how

[USMA:10618] Re: the whole nine yards

2001-01-23 Thread Ross DeMeyere
>My wife heard a comment on the origin of the saying "the whole nine yards." > >Apparently it is the amount of fabric needed to make a complete formal >Scottish kilt, sporran, and plaid and not a reference to American/Canadian >football as I had always suspected. > >Thus the "proper" SI translat

[USMA:10617] Re: slowing down the speed of light

2001-01-23 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Gregory Peterson wrote: > > ... could this now mean a new definition for the metre is required? No. The "group velocity" of the pulse was slowed. The "phase velocity" of each component was still c (in vac). Gene.

[USMA:10615] RE: slowing down the speed of light

2001-01-23 Thread Fardig, Paul S.
isn't the definition of a meter based on the speed of light IN A VACUUM? paul -Original Message- From: Gregory Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:51 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:10613] slowing down the speed of light This was in Mo

[USMA:10616] RE: the whole eight metres

2001-01-23 Thread Vigen, Gary
I've actually heard it came from the shipping insurance industry referring to the number of yard arms a sailing ship had. I vaguely remember that nine yards was the maximum of any ship hence the most that could be insured. Gary Vigen > -- > From: Gregory Peterson[SMTP:[EMAIL PRO

[USMA:10614] RE: "whole nine yards"

2001-01-23 Thread Dennis Brownridge
We have discussed the expression "the whole nine yards" before, and no one had a definitive source on its origin. But in construction, the volume of a standard ready-mixed concrete truck was traditionally 9 [cubic] yards (=7 m3) and I have personally heard builders say "the whole nine yards" meani

[USMA:10613] slowing down the speed of light

2001-01-23 Thread Gregory Peterson
This was in Monday's Globe and Mail. The tongue and cheek nature of the article aside: If this is true, could this now mean a new definition for the metre is required? greg Lights! Inaction! Monday, January 22, 2001 What's the world coming to if

[USMA:10612] Re: metric on US network TV

2001-01-23 Thread Bruce Raup
A few weeks ago on The West Wing (an NBC show about a Democratic administration in the Whitehouse, and all the goings-on there), the president's daughter, complaining about her father's concern for her security, said something like, "A stranger can't come within a hundred meters of me without you

[USMA:10611] Home Depot metric calculators

2001-01-23 Thread Gregory Peterson
The Home Depot [ http://www.homedepot.com ], [ http://www.homedepot.ca ] has a number of calculators available to determine how much supplies are need for a project of a given size. They provided a metric input option, however there were a number of glaring errors: 1) they had two blanks for

[USMA:10610] It's 2001, and ...

2001-01-23 Thread Tom Wade VMS Systems
>Well, here we are in 2001 and only months away from the latest date to >convert speed limit signs in the Republic. Probably a safe bet it won't >happen in June, but is it looking like there will simply be another >two-year extension and nothing more done to actually pepare for the >conversion (as

[USMA:10609] RE: 7-UP products

2001-01-23 Thread Carter, Baron
Checked my supermarket in Austin, Texas. 7-UP was in 500 mL, 2 L, and 3 L bottles. I then checked other brands. Virtually everything was metric except Pepsi. Baron Carter

[USMA:10608] Re: National Geographic and metrication

2001-01-23 Thread James R. Frysinger
Excellent, John! This is a well-written letter. Hopefully with enough drops of water we can turn this pothole into a scenic canyon. The Smithsonian magazine is another favorite, old target of mine and if you're a subscriber (I dropped them in protest) I urge you to write a similar letter to them.

[USMA:10606] National Geographic and metrication

2001-01-23 Thread John Tauxe
Dear Editors of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC - The map and other images of Mars in your most recent issue are stunning, and I was entranced as I explored the red planet through these images and the accompanying story. The article suffered from one drawback, however, in its presentation of units of dis

[USMA:10607] RE: 7-UP products

2001-01-23 Thread Gregory Peterson
We've had the 600 ml bottles (Coca-Cola, and Pepsi/7-UP) in Canada for some time. Occasionally we do see 591 ml bottles of "speciality" products from Coca-Cola such as their new bottled-water line and "sports" drinks. I'll let the List know when I see a 500 ml bottle. Incidentally I was in an

[USMA:10605] the whole eight metres

2001-01-23 Thread Gregory Peterson
My wife heard a comment on the origin of the saying "the whole nine yards." Apparently it is the amount of fabric needed to make a complete formal Scottish kilt, sporran, and plaid and not a reference to American/Canadian football as I had always suspected. Thus the "proper" SI translation wou

[USMA:10604] metric on US network TV

2001-01-23 Thread Gregory Peterson
I was flipping through the channels last night and I heard two rather surprising (and pleasing) references to metric on US network TV. 1) "Ali McBeal" (Fox Network). A reference was made by a supposedly overweigth witness to "lose 5". When questioned she stated "it could have been kilos or poun