2001-02-17
Please go to this site and flood their message board with pro-metric
statements.
> > www.metricsucks.com
John
In USMA 11062, Gene Mechtly makes reference to trying to "expand" what he
thought were umlauts in the Swedish word "Angstrom." Although it would be
correct to render the final "o" as "oe" if the o-umlaut would not render
properly, the correct form for rendering "a" -- the a-ring symbol -- is "aa"
Gene,
Nothing of of this stuff has been placed on the Google or any other forum.
Han
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From: "Gene Mechtly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:51 PM
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From: "jpcarette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, 2001-02-17 01:43
Subject: Re: This yahoo club would be more fun [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric
America]
> You are right. Currently I am going fishing on the site:
> www.metricsucks.com
> You should
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From: "downtobusiness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, 2001-02-16 22:26
Subject: This yahoo club would be more fun [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]
> with a few more members and a few more of the members playing active
roles.
>
> Please come p
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From: "downtobusiness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2001-02-16 22:25
Subject: If you see the temperature... [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]
> If you see the temperature posted on some sign of any institution, if it
is in C, then make a poi
At 18:19 -0600 01/02/16, Gene Mechtly wrote:
>In Table 8, hectare is in company with are, bar, barn,
>aengstroem (umlaut expanded), etc.
> The word "currently" accepted for use with SI implies that
>the axe will fall in the future excluding all of these fellow travelers
>in Table 8 from acce
I just posted a message to NASA regarding a web page and I included USMA
as blind copy recipient. PLEASE do not jump on them en masse and please
do not cite my message if you later correspond. I don't want Tony
Phillips to chalk this up as an assault by the "nasty letter brigade".
He's been reason
Dr. Tony Phillips, Space Directorate, Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA
copy to: Ron Koczor, Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA
Dear Dr. Phillips,
I found your article at
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm
regarding the heliomagnetic field and its recent flip to be e
That will be nice, won't it, Duncan! Just this morning I mentioned to a
colleague that we have about 90 ha of farmland in the Cumberland
Plateau region of Tennessee. He never asked how many square meters that
was -- nor how many acres!
Jim
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Duncan Bath wrote:
> I look forward
I look forward to the day when, for instance, farmers and real-estate people
employ hectares rather than acres for moderately sized land areas.
It may not be 'perfect' but as has been noted, 'perfection is the enemy of
the good'.
Duncan
-Original Message-
From: Gene Mechtly <[EMAIL PROTEC
2001 February 16
In USMA 10405 Mechtly listed energy prices from 440 MJ/$ to 11 MJ/$.
For 25 years I have priced energy in $/GJ.
This is used to find the value of solar energy where the heat loss in GJ/y of
a building is calculated or measured and the
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
> ... I predict a long life for the nautical mile, knot, and hectare.
Your prediction might be realized, Joe, but I advocate meter
squared (m2 as the simplified symbol) for the US, not hectare.
Gene.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
>
> ...at sea level at 45 degrees latitude kilogram-mass and kilogram-force
> are equal numerically by definition.
Joe,
If you are saying that 9.8 = 9.8, or 9.80665 = 9.80665, I must
agree that that is true there, or anywhere for that matter.
Gene Mechtly wrote:
> What is the name for a circle over a vowel if not "umlaut"?
Ring.
Bill Potts, CMS
San Jose, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
Bill,
Thanks for sharing your better knowledge of the Swedish and
Norwegian languages. What can be said about Danish?
I tried too hard to express the characters used by the BIPM
without actually sending them exactly because they would not display
correctly for some subscribers in
Kilopascal wrote in USMA 11053:
>It is also interesting that the Italians use the more coherent number
>naming, with the word miliardi for 10^9, where as the Spanish uses "mil
>millones, and the English uses billion.
Officially in British English a billion is 10^12. In commercial circles it
is
In USMA 11056 Gene Mechtly wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, James R. Frysinger wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I recommend that you do not bring this up! When we get everyone using SI
>> units and non-SI units acceptable for use with the SI, then we can worry
>> about "mop up" actions.
>>
>Jim,
>In
In USMA 11043 Gene Mechtly wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> ...
>> ... on the moon 1 lbm = 0.16 lbf (appr)...
>
>Sorry, Han. That is pure garbage. Mass is not equal to force
>by *any* unitless multiplication factor, exactly or even approximately.
>The rela
Gene Mechtly wrote:
> In Table 8, hectare is in company with are, bar, barn,
> aengstroem (umlaut expanded), etc.
There is no umlaut over the A in angstrom, Gene. It's a unique
Swedish/Norwegian letter (a with a circle over it -- pronounced "aw"). If
you want to expand it, in the absence o
I neglected to quote another statement in the BIPM Brochure
relative to Table 8: "Their use is not encouraged." This deprecation
applies to all the units listed in Table 8, including the hectare.
What is the justification, if any, for promoting use of the
hectare in the US while it
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, James R. Frysinger wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> I recommend that you do not bring this up! When we get everyone using SI
> units and non-SI units acceptable for use with the SI, then we can worry
> about "mop up" actions.
>
Jim,
In Table 8, hectare is in company with are, bar
Well it might be constant on earth to two sig. figs. On a side topic my
friend spends his life wandering inhospitable places measuring gravity. He
then maps it. From these data and the variations in them he can guess as to
the nature of the subsurface features. The unit he uses is the Gal whic
Bruce,
I recommend that you do not bring this up! When we get everyone using SI
units and non-SI units acceptable for use with the SI, then we can worry
about "mop up" actions. I daresay that a very, very large fraction of
the world's population understands "hectare", which was the point you
firs
2001-02-16
Maybe they got your messages! Yet, the use of SI symbols is sporadic. In
the first article, instead of 11 kg, we have 11 chili, 11 kilos and 11
kilograms. In the second article, only the Italian uses the "kg" symbol,
the Spanish is consistent with kilos, and this time the English sh
Here's another small success story, if there is follow-through.
Sorry I forgot to send her the URL for the USMA web site.
Bruce
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:41:18 -0500
From: Nancy Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:Please add SI unit
On 2001-02-16 16:38 -0600, Gene Mechtly wrote:
> Bruce,
> You might remind (or inform?) Michael that meter squared is
> an "SI Unit", but hectare has only the status of a unit "currently"
> accepted for use with SI (Table 8 in the BIPM Brochure).
> Therefore, meter squared is preferr
Bruce,
You might remind (or inform?) Michael that meter squared is
an "SI Unit", but hectare has only the status of a unit "currently"
accepted for use with SI (Table 8 in the BIPM Brochure).
Therefore, meter squared is preferred.
Gene.
> -- Forwarded message --
>
The Britsh Warts and Measles Association knows already about it. There was a
warning on their site against bwma.org.uk, stating that it linked to UKMA,
when I was there last time,
Han
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From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTEC
"Units for Newton's Second Law" by E. A. Mechtly
Newton's Second Law, which accurately predicts the dynamics of
unconstrained objects, can be stated, for the linear motion of rigid bodies
of constant mass, as
force equals mass times acceleration.
The
Regarding ITALY-NEWS NEWSLETTER 13 FEBBRAIO 2001
An article published in your Newsletter stated, in the English language
version, that a woman's body temperature had been reduced to 34 degrees
Fahrenheit (34 °F). (see reference at end)
Checking the same story in Italian and Spanish, it appear
That's obviously what he had in mind, Gene -- at least to me. Otherwise
he might have randomly picked some number such as 2.718.
Jim
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Gene Mechtly wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, James R. Frysinger wrote:
>
> > ... 9.8 m/s2 is neither "universal" nor a "constant",...
> A
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Bill Hooper wrote:
> ...a copy of that report is available in the USMA headquaters files.
> However only one copy is there and therefore it cannot be loaned out...
I have an original printed copy which I am willing to lend if the
borrower promises to return it in not
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, James R. Frysinger wrote:
> ... 9.8 m/s2 is neither "universal" nor a "constant",...
Agreed, Jim, if you substitute the symbol g (a variable) for the
number 9.8 (which *is* a constant, just as 9.80665 is a numerical constant).
Gene.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...
> ... on the moon 1 lbm = 0.16 lbf (appr)...
Sorry, Han. That is pure garbage. Mass is not equal to force
by *any* unitless multiplication factor, exactly or even approximately.
The relationship is f=m.a; Newton's Second Law in
Hello all.
I had written the maintainer of a NIST web page, that was about the WWV
radio station, about specifying its location relative to Denver in SI
rather than in miles. They had missed a use of "acres", though, so I
wrote them again. The newly improved site is at
http://www.boulder.nist.g
Recently someone on this list asked if it is possible to obtain a copy of
the report "Metric America: A Decision Whose Time Has Come". I'm sorry that
I did not record who it was that made the request.
I have learned that a copy of that report is available in the USMA
headquaters files. However on
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