Title: Re: [USMA:32446] Metric & Freedom (Was USMA announcement]
Dear Jim,
Well written. There's lots to mull on here!
Cheers,
Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia
61 3 5241 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.metricationmatters.com
This email and its attachments are for the sole use of the addre
Gentlemen (& Ladies?):
I come to work this morning to 20 or so emails prompted by my post to Pat
Naughtin. I have read them all carefully, and would like to address them
as a group.
My bona fides for those who don't know me: I am an ardent
PRO-metricationist, and have spent years and many thousan
> The goal of the UKMA is best explianed within the text of their
> document "A
> very British mess" (which inadvertantly explains how well having 2
> measurement systems works!!)
>
> I see:
>
> UKMA = Irradicate imperial, destroy it. Allow people to say its
> words but
> remove it from view.
> US
> The state is there to protect us - not tell us how to think.
You admitted that the teaching of Welsh in schools is compulsory. What's
that if it isn't telling people how to think?
> I am glad that Welsh and English coexist in Wales, and I am glad that
> Imperial and metric co-exist in England,
I'm sorry for the sadness involved in the loss you mention, and in no way
would I seek to make capital out of such an appalling and disturbing
predicament.
I have spoken to many on this listserv who have found my comments
interesting or useful, even if it might ocassionally mean disagreement.
Dear Stephen:
I support you rights. You have spoken them eloquently now I ask that you
leave the rest of us alone to get on with our lives.
If your right to imperial comes at the cost of one life is it worth the
price you ask us to pay? Simple question really - but one that is at the
heart of a h
The state is there to protect us - not tell us how to think.
I am glad that Welsh and English coexist in Wales, and I am glad that
Imperial and metric co-exist in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
There will be no prolification of languages in Wales in the same way as
there will be no prolif
> You are talking to a Welsh man.
>
> English road signs started to be put up in Wales during a time when the
> teaching of Welsh wasn't compulsory.
>
> The people tore them down and dumped them outside council offices.
>
> Sound familiar?
>
What sounds familiar is making an issue out of state con
I can only hope that EU industries will not join in any future TABD campaign for the delay or cancellation of the directive. It seems that in the campaign up to 2000 EU-companies were involved. If the directive takes effect in 2010 the computing industry will no longer be allowed to pester us with
You are talking to a Welsh man.
English road signs started to be put up in Wales during a time when the
teaching of Welsh wasn't compulsory.
The people tore them down and dumped them outside council offices.
Sound familiar?
From: "Philip S Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
> All languages are valid and all languages should be supported. Dieing
> languages should be saved and encouraged (in the same way as Welsh is now
> one of the fastest growing languages in the world). However,
> English is the
> business language of the world. The compatibility within this
> si
The goal of the UKMA is best explianed within the text of their document "A
very British mess" (which inadvertantly explains how well having 2
measurement systems works!!)
I see:
UKMA = Irradicate imperial, destroy it. Allow people to say its words but
remove it from view.
USMA = Introduce met
Funnily enough I agree. I suspect that you DO know people like that.
Are you with me?
> This is something that many in the pro-metric lobby don't understand.
>
> Their activities and anouncements continually alienate "on the
> fencers" and
> those who are mildly pro-metric.
Funny that. I know peop
We need to have metric available in all areas to all, and those who choose
not to use metric have had their day of non-metric being dominant in the UK
and USA, now it is the turn of metric being dominant.
Once again the argument sounds more like something out of a hollywood movie
with Emprorer M
All languages are valid and all languages should be supported. Dieing
languages should be saved and encouraged (in the same way as Welsh is now
one of the fastest growing languages in the world). However, English is the
business language of the world. The compatibility within this situation i
> I joined the BWMA directly as a result of activities, etc by the likes of
> people like UKMA and the odd extremist. (I don't see the USMA
> organisation
> in itself extreme, by the way - it appears to be very different in its
> oulook to that of UKMA)
What do you think the goal of the US Met
> This is something that many in the pro-metric lobby don't understand.
>
> Their activities and anouncements continually alienate "on the
> fencers" and
> those who are mildly pro-metric.
Funny that. I know people who are not particularly pro-metric who think that
BWMA are crazy.
Phil Hall
Well said David.
I think your analogy with ordinary language is the best example showing how
the concept of 'choice' is unworkable when it comes to measurement.
Phil Hall
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of David King
> Sent: 10 March 2005
I too am all for an anti-fascist society. Sometimes enthusiasm for
something can be mistaken for something less acceptable, and if you feel
that my comments are not in line with what you want society to be then I
feel that you have misunderstood my comments, or I am misunderstanding you.
I woul
"Failure or success of any country (India inclusive) lies in understanding:
How you term 'metrication'?
Eight out of 10 qualified engineers might respond by saying - it's the
decimally divided science of Weights & Measures."
No - that's the correct response to the term 'decimalisation'
(IMHO)
Fr
This is something that many in the pro-metric lobby don't understand.
Their activities and anouncements continually alienate "on the fencers" and
those who are mildly pro-metric.
I joined the BWMA directly as a result of activities, etc by the likes of
people like UKMA and the odd extremist. (I
Hi friends:
.metricated world.?
Failure or success of any country (India inclusive) lies in understanding:
How you term 'metrication'?
Eight out of 10 qualified engineers might respond by saying - it's the
decimally divided science of Weights & Measures. Be sincere and ask
yourself: How
I see that sort of thinking in the same way as telling someone who rides a
horse that he's self-centred because he won't drive a car!
From: Pat Naughtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
Subject: [USMA:32418] Re: USMA announcement
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 200
"This is not to say I have any sympathy for someone who complains that they
cannot buy something in a package marked as they wish, meaning
pro-metricationists who complain they cannot buy a kilogram package of
butter,
or anti-metricationists complaining they have to buy soda pop in two liter
bottl
Hi Jim (Elwell)
Thanks for the voice of sanity - but I fear you are in a minority.
When I joined this group I was (mildly) pro-metric. But recent
comments by many - including Pat, David and Phil - have been the last
straw for me.
I will hence forward actively oppose metrification in a wide vari
"Ultimately, I believe that these empty emotional arguments will gradually
diminish and we will achieve a metricated world."
Sorry, but that sounds both emotional and against all those things you said
you disliked.
Personally I've never met an anti-metric person - it's just not emotional
enough.
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