[USMA:46231] RE: OT: Citroen was: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Hmm - my Welsh is embarrassingly limited but I do remember that 'black' is 'du' or 'ddu' (pronounced dee or thee)- I guess that without the 'yellow' translation I'm screwed. > From: p...@phma.optus.nu > To: usma@colostate.edu > Subject: [USMA:46225] OT: Citroen was: Ergs??? > Date: Mon, 30 Nov

[USMA:46230] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Citroens and Mercedes. Reliable - safe - boring. (Sorry - my opinion ;-) ) > From: j...@frewston.plus.com > To: usma@colostate.edu > Subject: [USMA:46224] Re: Ergs??? > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:19:51 + > > > What's wrong with Citroens? I have two - a C2 and a C5, both diesels, both >

[USMA:46229] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Robert H. Bushnell
2009 Nov 30 The reference to 1029 ergs is 10 to the 29th power ergs. This comes from the cgs mind set from before SI was invented. NASA needs to wake up and join the modern world. Robert Bushnell On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:06 PM, ezra.steinb...@comcast.

[USMA:46228] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Robert H. Bushnell
2009 Nov 30 The reference to 1029 ergs is 10 to the 29th power ergs. This comes from the cgs mind set from before SI was invented. NASA needs to wake up and join the modern world. Robert Bushnell On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:06 PM, ezra.steinb...@comcast.

[USMA:46227] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread ezra . steinberg
As usual, you guys are great! Thanks so much for the clear explanations, the much appreciated humor, and the well written letter back to the folks who posted the article. :-) -- Ezra - Original Message - From: "John M. Steele" To: "U.S. Metric Association" Sent: Monday, November

[USMA:46226] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread John M. Steele
You guys have ruined my visualization of this energy as 1.6 Mmol of flies doing pushups. :)   As the two references to the energy differ by three orders of magnitude, at least one must be wrong.  The body of my e-mail to their contact e-mail adress follows:   In the news article referenced in th

[USMA:46225] OT: Citroen was: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:19:51 John Frewen-Lord wrote: > What's wrong with Citroens? The name of the car is "Citroën". "Citroen" is Dutch for "lemon". ;) I was expecting Han or Martin to say something first. Now do we have any Welsh members who can guess this sig? Pierre -- I believe in

[USMA:46224] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread John Frewen-Lord
What's wrong with Citroens? I have two - a C2 and a C5, both diesels, both untterly reliable, both very strong, VERY quiet, smooth and very 'long legged' cars (C5 at 2000 rpm is doing 110 km/h). Previous C5 - 180 000 km, no problems, routine maintenance only. Current C5 - 75 000 km - ditto

[USMA:46223] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread James R. Frysinger
Blame the astronomers at NASA. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) is quite strongly in favor of using SI. I've posted their statement (from their authors' guide) here a few times before. But the American Astronomical Society (AAS) is hopelessly bogged down in cgs (don't ask me which

[USMA:46222] Re: Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 30 November 2009 16:06:39 ezra.steinb...@comcast.net wrote: > Anyone have an idea why the article (from our friends at NASA ;-) below > would mention ergs for energy? > > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/news/solar_tsunami.html Beats me. It's not out of range of prefixes applied

[USMA:46221] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre Abbat
A kind of algebra problem that is directly related to metrication: You give the student a formula, such as the one used in a county or state to compute the size of a detention pond, expressed in feet and acres, and ask him to convert the formula to metric. Pierre -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o

[USMA:46220] Ergs???

2009-11-30 Thread ezra . steinberg
Anyone have an idea why the article (from our friends at NASA ;-) below would mention ergs for energy? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/news/solar_tsunami.html Ezra

[USMA:46219] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Bill, You have fallen into a common trap. You wrote "Ye olde ...". The word "Ye" first word should be "Þe" ("Þ" is a close approximation to the old English letter "thorn" - still used in Iceland and in this mail). -Original Message- From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@col

[USMA:46218] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Vlietstra
John wrote "For the UK, there is more history and more obsolete units (but how many REALLY care about those old conversions)". Most Brits are not aware of all the obsolete measurements that we have. I often hear - "Give him an inch and he will take a mile", or as some newspaper headlines have

[USMA:46217] Nip the Evil RE: Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Brij Bhushan Vij
Bill, sir: >.Once the process is learned, it can be adapted for use with ANY units,... Today's school grader has to become 'tomorrow's industry specialist'. In this process of half learning (unless I have misread) the child while continuing to use - Ye Olde English units, gets the impressi

[USMA:46216] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 30 November 2009 11:54:25 Bill Hooper wrote: > We were talking about school children not specialists. I agreed that > teaching conversion may be a useful process to learn, but it should wait > until algebra and it could be used to convert units OTHER THAN Olde English > units. (I gave a

[USMA:46215] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread Bill Hooper
We were talking about school children not specialists. I agreed that teaching conversion may be a useful process to learn, but it should wait until algebra and it could be used to convert units OTHER THAN Olde English units. (I gave a number of examples in my earlier reply.) Once the process i

[USMA:46214] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-11-30 Thread John M. Steele
In snipping your remarks to the minimum, I have damaged your color coding.  Sorry.   The Otis approach is interesting.  Given the usual "feelings" associated with color, I am surprised they didn't reverse red and blue.  The point of a succesful metric conversion is that inch-pound design has no