[USMA:48417] Re: Trip to Canada

2010-08-21 Thread John M. Steele
You may find this link even more interesting: http://www.sizes.com/units/gallon_english_wine.htm The US gallon at 231 in³ is identical to Queen Anne Wine gallon passed by Parliament in 1706, taking effect in 1707. Prior to that, it had been 231 in³, a cylindrical measure 7" D x 6" high (about

[USMA:48416] Amending the FPLA

2010-08-21 Thread mechtly
In preparing the new initiative to amend the FPLA to *permit* metric-only labeling, NIST has compiled an impressive list of products which *already* display metric-only labels; many imported items, and many items packaged in the USA. We can be glad that there is no vigorous literal enforceme

[USMA:48415] Re: Trip to Canada

2010-08-21 Thread ezra . steinberg
This article in Wikipedia gives the background and the attendant crazy flavor of what's behind the Imperial vs US Customary madness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_ounce I agree with John maybe holding the feet to the fire of those members of the FMI who are opposed to amending the F

[USMA:48414] Re: Trip to Canada

2010-08-21 Thread John M. Steele
The US fluid ounce is larger than the Imperial, but the quart is smaller.  While not allowed (alone) by FPLA, the 40 oz delaration is true in Canada in the "I gave you more than" sense.  Had they said 1 QT 8 OZ, that would have been untrue (and unlawful) in Canada. Has NAFTA somehow exempted

[USMA:48413] Re: Trip to Canada

2010-08-21 Thread ezra . steinberg
Here's where things get a little ugly, of course, because the FPLA requires US fluid ounces, which are not the ounce used in Canada. All the more reason for us to get the FPLA amended. I have this obsessive conviction (no secret there ;-) that rational metric sizes will abound once that happen

[USMA:48412] Re: On Defining Metre New (m') RE: Speed of light

2010-08-21 Thread John M. Steele
No one is ever going to seriously consider a material change in the value of the meter or second (other than refinement of better implementing the value).  Both enter into the derivation of so many derived units that it completely changes ALL science and measurement.  If the second is frozen, a

[USMA:48411] On Defining Metre New (m') RE: Speed of light

2010-08-21 Thread Brij Bhushan Vij
Harry sir: I reported the updated value published in Times, New York dated 1972 December 4th in my contribution "The Metric Second" published in ISI Bulln., V25 N4, 1973 April through Bureau of Indian Standards, New Delhi in my attempt to redefine LENGTH UNIT - Metre, in terms of Velocity of Li

[USMA:48410] Speed of light

2010-08-21 Thread Harry Wyeth
Lots of interesting metric talk in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light HARRY WYETH

[USMA:48409] Re: Trip to Canada

2010-08-21 Thread John M. Steele
I have a 1.18 L bottle of shampoo, which would look a little funny without its companion "40 oz."  I believe it is not strictly FPLA-compliant as I believe 1QT 8OZ is mandatory, but 40 OZ may be specified in addition.  What is odder is that it came in a bundle that included a smaller bottle, w

[USMA:48408] Re: ASTM SI10

2010-08-21 Thread John M. Steele
While you wait for the new edition of ANSI SI10, you might consider NIST SP330 and SP811.  Both are free pdf downloads.  For technical editting, SP811 would make a very satisfactory style guide in my opinion.  Since you wouldn't be spending any money, you could still get SI10 when it is availabl