John Nichols BE, Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional EngineerFrom: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [USMA:24817] Re: Fwd: Milk by the liter Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:29:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-Loop-Detect: 1 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Liter bottles of wine are very rare. However, liquor comes in 187.5 mL, 375 mL, 500 mL, 750 mL, 1 L and 1.75 L bottles. Wine is more typically in 187.5 mL, 375 mL, 750 mL and 1.5 L bottles. Champagne may also be in 3 L and 6 L bottles. (Still wine can be in those two sizes, but very rarely is.) I haven't included boxes or jugs of wine. The stuff that comes in those containers is only marginally potable, anyway. In your definition of a "fifth," you've taken the long way around. It simply means one fifth of a US gallon. I've never heard anyone refer to it as four fifths of a quart (even though, technically, it is). Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kilopascal Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 20:46 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:24816] Re: Fwd: Milk by the liter 2003-02-11 This guy has an error that needs to be pointed out. There are actually litre sizes of wine and whisky. They are rare, but they exist. The quart sizes were changed to litres. It was the old four-fifths quart, popularly stilled called "the fifth" that became the 750 mL size. The fifth was actually 757 mL, so the reduction only resulted in a 7 mL decrease. In fact the 750 mL size is a 50 mL increase over the European standard of 700 mL. I don't understand why this guy insists that metrication must mean reduction in sizes? If milk and milk products are sold in every country in the world in 1 and 2 L sizes, why would the US be different and go with odd sizes like 750 mL and 1.75 L? That makes no sense. I think you need to contact him back and point out these facts to him. John ----- Original Message ----- From: John Woelflein To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesday, 2003-02-11 14:46 Subject: [USMA:24813] Fwd: Milk by the liter Sent to the American Dairy Association's Boston branch. "Erik Rasmussen" lk1.com> cc: Subject: Milk by the liter 2003-02-11 13:40 I remember when the Carter Administration tried to convert the entire country to the metric system in the late 1970s by Executive Order. Congress and most industries were against it, so it never happened. The one exception was the liquor industry which immediately converted the half gallon to 1.75L and still charged the ½ gallon price. The quart became 750 mil. I suspect the same would occur in the dairy industry. The next time you are in a supermarket look for Garelick's "Kids Milk". It's in a 1.75L package with the ounces stated as well. This is a different Received: from fmneast-MTA by raptor-nw.fedmilk1.product category so you shouldn't really compare prices with a regular ½ gallon of milk, but a ½ gallon it's not. I haven't heard of anyone pressing for a metric conversion so I doubt it is likely in the near future. Erik Rasmussen ----- Message from "MABoston Boston" on Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:19:56 -0500 ----- To: "Erik Rasmussen" Subject: Fwd: Milk by the Liter >>> 02/11/03 11:58AM >>> Is there any chance that the dairy industry will convert its packaging to the metric system? It seems as though many other beverage/food industries have begun or completed their changeover to metric sizes for consumer products. An example is the soft drink industry, which now sells most sizes in liter-sized bottles. The liquor and wine industries have sold their products in liter sizes since the late 1970s. Bottled water is about halfway through its conversion to liter sizes. It would seem logical that the dairy industry--liquid ! milk in particular--would begin a conversion to metric sizes. The easiest way would be to simply replace the gallon jug with a four-liter jug. That way, you would be selling more of your product, since 4 L is more than 1 gal. Then you could replace the quart and half gallon sizes with 1 and 2 L sizes. Again, this would sell more milk for you. Ice cream could also be sold in 1- and 2-liter packages, as is done in Canada and most other countries. Could you please let me know if this has occurred to anyone in the industry? Thank you very much. John Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
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