How? Can you show me an example? How is a package that states 1 pint 473 mL
more deceptive then one showing 473 mL only? How is 473 mL any more simple,
clear and less deceptive then having the word 1 pint included on the label?
Jerry
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From: "mech...@illinois.edu" <mech...@illinois.edu>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:46:56 AM
Subject: [USMA:43148] Re: true metrication is systemic
Respect rather than contempt for the EU Metric Directive (80-181) would be
gained. Presently the FPLA requires duality while, if enforced, the EU
Directive requires metric-only labeling after 2010 Jan 1. Simplicity, clarity,
and less deceptive marketing would be gained by metric-only labeling.
---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:10:13 -0800 (PST)
>From: Jeremiah MacGregor <jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com>
>Subject: [USMA:43111] Re: true metrication is systemic
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
>
> Every package that I encounter has a metric
> description on it. Isn't that sufficient? If by
> chance the English units were removed, what would be
> gained?
>
> Jerry
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> From: STANLEY DOORE <stan.do...@verizon.net>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:50:01 PM
> Subject: [USMA:43041] Re: true metrication is
> systemic
> Paul et al:
> Absolutely metrication needs a decision from the
> top; however, visibility and use is essential to
> make it work. Packaging and road signs are
> visible and used by most people and this would make
> people familiar with and learn metric. Those are
> two highly visible and useful applications which
> confront people daily and which would stimulate and
> maintain the conversion process.
> Yes, a procedure is necessary and packaging and
> road signs would be an excellent way for people to
> learn metric in an every day environment. Metric is
> already used extensively below the public surface in
> the US, however, most people don't know it or are
> not concerned about it. The SI and metric needs to
> be brought into the open.
> Stan Doore
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trusten
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 AM
> Subject: [USMA:43032] true metrication is systemic
> Stan et al., this is about procedure. Metrication
> is not a bottoms-up process; it is systemic.
> Victory for metrication is to be found among our
> leaders, who have to get together and set it in
> motion. Road signs cannot function as
> mere billboards for metrication, but rather, as
> the results of metrication. Once the starting
> gun for real metrication is fired, and the race is
> on for the 10-year transition period, we shall
> have an ever-increasing number of visible and
> audible signs of it, as weather reports report
> wind speeds in kilometers per hour and
> temperatures in degrees Celsius, available office
> space is advertised in square meters on signs, and
> those pesky media style guides are revised to
> specify the use of metric units only, so that
> every measurement we read about is stated in SI
> metric units.
>
> Metric "will win" when metrication starts in
> earnest. I think that, for those of us who want a
> metric America, real metrication will be very
> satisfying, because it will be truly ubiquitous.
> We will eventually get to that point where
> refrigerator magnets that happen to be
> thermometers will be Celsius-only thermometers,
> and when you go into a dollar store looking for a
> ruler, it will be have millimeter scales on both
> edges. With true metrication, U.S. customary
> units will go the way of the 33-1/3
> RPM long-playing record.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: STANLEY DOORE
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Sent: 16 February, 2009 07:27
> Subject: [USMA:43031] Re: More companies primed
> to pounce on metric-only labeling
> Road signs are an integral part of changing
> to metric because they are so visible and an
> integral part of all our lives. change them,
> weather reporting and product display in
> grocery stores and metric will win.
> Stan Doore
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian J White
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:53 PM
> Subject: [USMA:43022] Re: More companies
> primed to pounce on metric-only labeling
> You know me Paul...I wasn't disputing
> anything. It just made me think.
>
> Did the DOT rules relax over the past few
> years on the speedo km/h requirement?
>
> At 20:47 2009-02-15, Paul Trusten wrote:
>
> Changing road signs can only be a small part
> of metrication. What about the speedometers,
> odometers, driver training, federal and
> state traffic regulations, statements of the
> heights of tractor trailers in meters so the
> drivers will understand the meters-only
> clearance signs that will replaces the ones
> that now read in feet? If there are jobs to
> be held for metrication, they will be
> created in many areas of our lives, and each
> metric transition must be coordinated with
> the others. There will be jobs in signage,
> sure, but there will also be jobs in writing
> new regulations, jobs providing metric
> training, jobs in designing new products or
> changes in old products. Once the Nation's
> leadership makes the decision to go metric,
> all of these things will follow, e.g., there
> would be a DOT requirement that, by a
> certain date, all vehicles made in the U.S.
> will display speedometers that read in
> kilometers per hour only, and odometers that
> accumulate kilometers only. Metrication is
> all or nothing. It's a life process; a
> living thing.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian J White
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Sent: 15 February, 2009 22:29
> Subject: [USMA:43020] Re: More
> companies primed to pounce on
> metric-only labeling
>
> What gets me about sign changing,
> is....whatever happened to the DOT
> requirement that cars must be sold
> with both km/h and mph on the
> speedo?
> Mercedes over the past 3-4 years
> seems to be getting away without
> it...they are mph only it looks
> like.
>
> I know GM has numbers only with a
> legend that switches between mph and
> km/h, but the Mercedes cars look to
> be mph only all the time. Makes
> for a suck time when driving to
> Canada I'm sure.
>
> My wife's old Honda Civic (I hated
> that car.) had both mph and km/h
> markings, but only MPH illuminated
> at night. Talk about a bozo design
> feature right there..... I tried to
> talk you out of the Honda again Nat,
> but to no avail. :)
>
> At 19:36 2009-02-15, STANLEY DOORE
> wrote:
>
> 
> The NIST has drafted legislation
> to provide for metric only product
> labeling. If Congress would pass it
> and the President sign it, there
> would be a great move to go all
> metric.
> If ALL people would contact
> their Congressional
> representatives, then perhaps
> something would happen. No single
> organization can do it alone.
> However, most companies want to go
> metric and many already have gone
> metric like the auto industry has.
> With the current stimulus bill
> recently passed and it's called a
> jobs bill, it would be appropriate
> to have all road signs changed to
> metric very quickly.
> Stan Doore
