I wonder why Stephen doesn't post his frustrations here for all of the USMA 
posters to see.  

Yes, I would agree strongly that Stephen's sinister actions have brought this 
site down.  But that is true of every forum Stephen has been a member of.  
Eventually they all close down and all because of Stephen.

There is also something nasty about a person who has to deal in "private 
conversations"  in order to think he has friends and status. 

Stephen can't debate weights and measures as he would have to conclude all of 
his postings have been untrue.  

Jerry   




________________________________
From: Ken Cooper <k_cooper1...@yahoo.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:45:32 PM
Subject: [USMA:44967] Stephen's use of pseudonyms on other sites


Stephen said

"I still find it rather telling that known extremists have to make up names to 
post behind (and in the case of Lee, rather sinisterly)."

I would rather debate Weights & Measures, but cannot let this pass..

On www.metric-versus-imperial.com, Stephen posts as "Jock McScotland" 
(amongst the many other alias's he has used on that site)

Jock McScotland is meant to be a parody of me (recently, Stephen has even found 
an online photo of me & is using it as "Jock's" avatar)

Stephen copies posts of mine from here (usually adding further text) then often 
posts further comments of a scatalogical nature. Usually, these are in badly 
spelled phonetic "Scottish" accent. Obviously Stephen must enjoy "ethnic" 
humour of this type.

Here are a couple of examples. Personally, I find it a bit sinister to be 
subject to this cyberstalking, but it does show what a sad obsessed individual 
Stephen is.

http://www.metric-versus-imperial.com/viewtopic.php?t=273

http://metric-versus-imperial.com/viewtopic.php?t=270


Apologies for bringing this up, but I do believe that Stephen's abuse 
of genuine posts from this listserver may perhaps reflect badly on the site.

Personally, I'm tempted to leave the posts as they are, just to show how 
desperate & extreme the pro-imp side have become.

Alternatively, court action for defamation & copyright theft might be fun.



--- On Fri, 1/5/09, Stephen Humphreys <barkatf...@hotmail..com> wrote:


From: Stephen Humphreys <barkatf...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [USMA:44951] RE: FPLA 2010
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 9:35 AM


Mr Schweisthal
 
You are fully aware that all my posts are true (I have really no reason to 
waste my time making up elaborate stories which I will have to remember forever 
just to keep you on the boil).
 
There should be some recognition now that Lee's main reason for being here is 
to take my posts and "make them wrong".  Either by pedantry or by twisting what 
I have said to mean something different.  If you don't believe me take a look 
at the "posting tree" regarding responses to my posts. Others are always 
welcome to contact me privately (which has happened quite a lot) or publicly 
and I will answer points regarding those posts.
 
I still find it rather telling that known extremists have to make up names to 
post behind (and in the case of Lee, rather sinisterly).
 
Fortunately I don't have to answer every point by you or Lee as I have already 
made the reasoning clear a while ago (this is simply a 'reminder').  however I 
do find it unfair that people have gone out of their way to unsubscribe on the 
weekend to avoid you - only to have you spam the place during the week.
 
Any chance you could go back to being the "weekend warrior", as before?
 
________________________________
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:28:02 -0700
From: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail..com
Subject: [USMA:44943] RE: FPLA 2010
To: usma@colostate.edu


Funny how Stephen always leaves out the important information.

Jerry




________________________________
From: Ken Cooper <k_cooper1...@yahoo.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:35:20 PM
Subject: [USMA:44928] RE: FPLA 2010


Stephen said

"You are already aware that milk in supermarkets and shops are frequently 
labelled in pints too."

What he really means is that

You are already aware that milk in supermarkets and shops arealways primarily 
labelled in litres or millilitres but are also frequently labelled in pints too 
(but only as a secondary, supplementary unit)

--- On Mon, 27/4/09, Stephen Humphreys <barkatf...@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Stephen Humphreys <barkatf...@hotmail..com>
Subject: [USMA:44893] RE: FPLA 2010
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 11:49 PM


You are already aware that milk in supermarkets and shops are frequently 
labelled in pints too.

________________________________
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:07:58 -0700
From: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail...com
Subject: [USMA:44890] RE: FPLA 2010
To: usma@colostate.edu


But isn't the requirement for milk in pints (568 mL) limited to those glass 
bottles delivered only at ones door?

Do you know approximately how many people still purchase milk from a milkman?

Jerry




________________________________
From: Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <u...@colostate..edu>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:00:24 PM
Subject: [USMA:44886] RE: FPLA 2010


The UK is a member state of the EU and in theory the packaging requirements
of all states is identical, except for a few items such as milk that is
served in returnable containers which, in the UK, may be in pints.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-u...@colostate..edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of mech...@illinois.edu
Sent: 27 April 2009 18:06
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:44885] FPLA 2010


Mike,

The date the European Union *requires* metric units as primary indications
of amount of contents in packages and on labels and in documentation of
packages is 2010 January 1.

However, Member States of the EU are anticipated to *permit* but not require
non-metric units as "supplementary indications" beyond January 1, as does
the UK now.

Since "2010 January 1" is a "transition" date it seems appropriate as the
target date for a new FPLA; "FPLA 2010" with time for new legislation in the
United States.

The present FPLA *requires both* metric and inch-pound units.
This requirement for duality *does not* conform with the EU Metric Directive
which requires metric units and merely permits non-metric units, even beyond
January 1
---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:18:24 +0000
>From: mholm...@bellsouth.net  
>Subject: Re: [USMA:44855] FPLA 2010 as FPLA-4-24..pdf  
>To: mech...@illinois.edu, "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
>Cc: <mech...@illinois..edu>
>
>  Why 2010?  It should be 2009!
>    
>  Mike Holmes
>
>    -------------- Original message from
>    <mech...@illinois.edu>: --------------
>
>    > Public Law 100-418 designates the metric system
>    of measurements as preferred for
>    > United States trade and commerce... It is not
>    481.
>    >
>    > Attached is Draft FPLA-4-24.pdf which makes that
>    correction.
>    >



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