O.K., Stan, how do you put a 50 m insert in a 50 yard pool? Reminds me of the old expression about putting a quart in a pint pot. Bill _____
Bill Potts W <http://wfpconsulting.com/> FP Consulting Roseville, CA <http://metric1.org/> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] _____ From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of STANLEY DOORE Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 13:39 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:45392] Re: Speed in metres per second Some sports like golf, without fixed playing field dimensions, can easily use metric units. Football has a fixed dimension filed which would create havoc with rules and statistic. Baseball on the other hand could keep its playing field the same but it could convert distances to the fence and other records to metric without changing basic competition measurements. New swimming pools should all be built to metric since that's the Olympic standard. 50 m inserts can be placed in 50 yard pools; our community pool does this for its swim meets. Stan Doore ----- Original Message ----- From: John M. Steele <mailto:jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> To: U.S. Metric Association <mailto:usma@ColoState.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: [USMA:45386] Re: Speed in metres per second I don't see why metric golf would be problematic. Every course is "random length." You would merely have to get used to hole lengths in meters, and be able to select the proper club given remaining distance to hole. I'm sure metric golf is played in metric countries. Metric football could be a problem. The notion of 10 yards forward progress for a first down is key to the game. A game could be played on a 100 m field, with 10 m for a first down but strategy and mix of running/passing plays would change. You could not bounce back and forth between it and a 100 yd field, and play at a professional level.. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Howard Ressel <hres...@dot.state.ny.us> wrote: From: Howard Ressel <hres...@dot.state.ny.us> Subject: [USMA:45376] Re: Speed in metres per second To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>, "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:06 PM Well said, my thoughts too. Lets concentrate on conversion issues that can make sense to the general public. Telling them they have to go metric and on top of that now have to plan trips in meters per second vs. something more akin to what they are used to would be more of a disaster than a help. Golf and football in the US will still be in yards no matter how metric we are. -- "Go for a Metric America" Howard Ressel Project Design Engineer, Region 4 (585) 272-3372 >>> On 7/15/2009 at 9:29 AM, in message <70909.56827...@web82401.mail.mud.yahoo.com <http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=70909.56827...@web82401.mail.m ud.yahoo.com> >, "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net <http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > I believe the reverse is true. I believe the SI Brochure has embraced the > idea that certain commercial situations and everyday life are so committed to > some special units that it is senseless to attempt change. These include the > liter, metric ton, hectare, minute, hour, and day (they did kiss the stere > goodbye). > > We should not change for change's sake, we should change to solve problems. > So, before we can discuss change, can we define the "problem" of people using > km/h in everyday life? It seems like it is . . . ., Well, what is it? I > don't know. > > Engineers need to know they need pure base units for calculation, but they > already know this. In everyday life, few people do such calculations. > Mostly, they want an estimate of how long it will take to get somewhere. > While they could probably convert the kilometers to meters, they frankly > don't want the answer in seconds (except possibly in a race). > > Cars haven't been around the whole time, but in over 200 years, metric > countries seem to have gravitated universally towards kilometers per hour for > boats, trains, cars, planes, and no country sets m/s speed limits or marks > speedometers thusly. In countries not already metric, such a proposal would > simply add to any existing "the metric system is inconvenient" sentiment. I > don't think it would be well-received in metric countries either. Why rock > the boat? > > --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Pat Naughtin <pat.naugh...@metricationmatters.com <http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pat.naugh...@metricationmatter s.com> > wrote: > > > From: Pat Naughtin <pat.naugh...@metricationmatters.com <http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pat.naugh...@metricationmatter s.com> > > Subject: [USMA:45365] Speed in metres per second > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu <http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=u...@colostate.edu> > > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 8:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if we will ever be ready to embrace the idea of using the SI unit, > metres per second, for speed in everyday conversations.
