Hi Pat:

I believe (any electrical experts here that could confirm this?) that cables 
are all based on a rational progression of their (metric) cross sectional 
areas.  Even the cable to my electric kettle is shown in terms of its mm2 
value.  I would imagine that the 2 inch value is a (rough) approximation of its 
actual metric diameter, for the benefit of the US public.

All this still doesn't answer the nagging questions in my mind how this state 
of affairs came about.  It looks like a lot of finger pointing over some error 
discovered somewhere when things didn't fit, likely on the drawings or 
specifications and long before construction actually took place.  The 0.5 mm 
'error' turned out to be a convenient hook to try to hang an accusation on.

Cheers

John F-L
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Naughtin 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:04 AM
  Subject: [USMA:45531] Re: I blew it! (The conversion of 2/100ths of an inch, 
that is)


  Dear John,


  I noticed the closeness of 2.52 inches and 64 mm and then I wondered whether 
they were trying to fit a metric cable into an old- pre-metric space or 
vice-versa.


  On another issue from the same article, I wondered about where in Italy you 
could buy a 2 inch cable. This would be a most unusual size in Italy and would 
have to be a special order as I don't think any Italian cable maker would 
routinely make products to inch sizes.


  Cheers,

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  On 2009/08/06, at 4:32 PM, John Frewen-Lord wrote:


    As a surveyor in the construction industry (and having worked in both 
imperial and metric in the UK, the US, Canada and South Africa), something 
about this story doesn't quite ring true.

    1.  In-the-field tolerances are never less than 1/16" imperial (1.6 mm), or 
1 mm metric (at least I've never come across tolerances tighter than that, and 
that includes a lot of precision hospital work).  The 2/100ths of an inch is 
almost exactly 0.5 mm, a tolerance virtually impossible to achieve on a 
construction site.

    2.  The 2.52" is almost exactly 64 mm.  Allowing for a tolerance of say +/- 
1 mm, the trench should have been specified at 65 mm.

    3.  I'm no electrical expert, but I do know that cables when conducting 
electricity heat up and expand. Was no allowance made for this?  And would it 
not have been wise to allow a tiny bit of airpace between the cable and trench 
walls to allow air circulation and help the cable to stay cool(er)?

    I wonder if there's more to this story than is being told?

    Cheers

    John F-L
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net
      To: U.S. Metric Association
      Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:07 AM
      Subject: [USMA:45529] I blew it! (The conversion of 2/100ths of an inch, 
that is)


      OK, I got my conversion wrong. But I bet we would be using whole numbers 
in millimiters if we were using and familiar with metric and had adopted 
millimeters for construction as Pat has observed works best in industry.

      -- Ezra


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