Perhaps I can add how Canada's metrication was promoted, at least initially, 
back in the early/mid 1970s.  There was (and to some extent still is) a great 
antipathy towards the USA, especially in the area of what was called the USA's 
"cultural imperialism", something that Canada's prime minister of the day, 
Pierre Elliott Trudeau, was passionate about.  Going metric was one of the ways 
that Canada was able to express its own identity - something that is very hard 
to do when your next door neighbour is 10 times bigger than you, is your 
biggest trading partner and is the most powerful country on earth.

Over the years, there has been some softening in Canada's stance towards the 
USA, and that has almost exactly coincided with Canada's partial regression 
towards imperial measures.  Maybe we need another Trudeau.....

John F-L
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Vlietstra 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:52 PM
  Subject: [USMA:47049] RE: The "Europeanization" of the U.S.? --was Re: BBC 
debate about road signs


  By 1979 the metrication program in the UK had slowed down into bottom gear.  
In that year Mrs Thatcher became prime minister and one of the things on the 
agenda was the harmonization of units of measure across the EU.  Mrs Thatcher's 
antipathy towards the EU was well known and she used the failure to complete 
the metrication program as a symbol of defiance towards EU regulations.  
Intricate details of how VAT was collected meant nothing to the man in the 
street, but changing of everyday things like miles and pints were highly 
visible. 

   

  When I compare this to South Africa - the bulk of the South African 
metrication program was complete by 1975 - South Africa had been a republic for 
over a decade and metrication was seen as being a step in the direction of the 
country asserting its independence - in particular South Africa did not have to 
wait for the British lead in everything.  Pat might be able to mention whether 
or not there was a similar mood in Australia.    

   


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  From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of 
Paul Trusten
  Sent: 05 April 2010 17:13
  To: U.S. Metric Association
  Subject: [USMA:47048] The "Europeanization" of the U.S.? --was Re: BBC debate 
about road signs

   

  This is a 2006 program, hence the discussion of 2010 and supplementary 
indications.  

   

  Perhaps the U.K. citizens can enlighten me on this point, but in that country 
and in mine (the U.S.),  metrication seems to me to have become a political 
issue, not a technical one, when it is more technical than it is political.  
Right now, in the U.S., there is a great deal of complaining about President 
Obama seeking to "Europeanize" America with his political agenda. and I hate to 
see this argument spill over into the metrication discussion, as it seems to be 
doing in the UK . My counter to this is that the SI metric system does not 
belong to Europe alone. Far from it. It belongs to North America, South 
America, Asia, Africa, the Pacific states--- it is global. 

   

  If we take into account the U.S. Metric Act of 1866, the Metre Convention of 
1875,  and the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, SI is the entire world's system 
of measurement, and its avoidance by a few countries should be seen a form of 
deprivation, not a form of exceptionalism, for those countries' citizens. The 
lad who asked what a pint was is part of our future.  In the government 
publication Metrication In Australia, the Australian government stated its wish 
to be part of the future, not the past, when it launched metrication in the 
1970s.  As it was in Ireland in 2005, Metrication of road signs in the UK would 
be forward-looking, and for the long term. 

   

   

  Paul Trusten,R.Ph.

  Public Relations Director

  U.S. Metric Association, Inc.

  www.metric.org        

   

  ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Pat Naughtin 

    To: U.S. Metric Association 

    Sent: 05 April, 2010 02:27

    Subject: [USMA:47044] BBC debate about road signs

     

    Dear All, 

     

    I have just watched this completely bizarre BBC program called, 'Question 
Time' at http://www.youtube.com/user/UKMetric 

     

    I say completely bizarre because we, in Australia, changed all of the road 
signs in this very large country in a single day (Sunday 1974 July 1). We did 
this with with minimum cost by simply applying stick on signs over all the old 
signs. Some approximations were made (1/4 mile became 400 metres for instance) 
and all the the signs were replaced and perhaps moved slightly in the normal 
order of maintenance plans.

     

    This completely bizarre BBC program illustrates clearly that the UK 
government has no plans to learn from others about how to go about the road 
sign change. Instead they appear to want to extend the discussion well beyond 
the 45 years (1965 to 2010) it has already taken so far - and there is no end 
in sight.

     

    I have said before and I will repeat here, 'A well planned and carried out 
metrication upgrade can be completed in a single day - a poorly planned attempt 
at metric conversion can take more than 100 years. In both cases the change to 
the metric system is inevitable'.

     

    Cheers,

    Pat Naughtin

    Author of the ebook, Metrication Leaders Guide, that you can obtain from 
http://metricationmatters.com/MetricationLeadersGuideInfo.html 

    PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,

    Geelong, Australia

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