On 23/02/2023 16:39, Maxim Belotserkovsky wrote:
Hi. I'm doing initial verification of a B200. A sine wave at 100MHz is fed into front end. The receiver is configured to use its quadrature downconverter to bring the wave down to 100kHz, which is then sampled by a GR "USRP Source" component and displayed in a "Frequency Sink" GUI. I notice the following unexplained behavior: as long as I set the Sampling Rate parameter of the radio to anything > or equal to 200 kHz (i.e. more than twice the frequency of the analog tone I'm trying to sample) I see the tone in the FFT output where I expect it to be; however, any sampling frequency less than that, and I get no output at all. For example, with the 100kHz tone in my experiment, setting the sampling rate to 100kHz should result in a spectral line near DC, however, no output is observed. It is almost as if there is something going on behind the scenes that doesn't allow for aliasing to happen, either in the stock FPGA design or some other block external to the FPGA. Can anyone comment? I just want to conduct a very basic sanity check of the received down-conversion and sampling. Is there a functional description of the digital and analog processing chain that B200 comes from the factory with? Thanks


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Most of the signal processing in a B200 is done by the AD9361 RF front-end chip.    There is still a DDC in the FPGA, to handle   cases where the AD9361 can't do all the job.    If you ask for 100ksps (quite low for the B200), the job of delivering that   bandwidth to the host will be shared between the AD9361 and the DDC in the FPGA.    The combined filter roll-off of those
  is going to be quite aggressive--this is pretty normal for SDRs.

The datasheets for the AD9361 are available freely, as is the source code for all of UHD and the firmware and FPGA for
  the B2xx series.


Here's the basic summary of what happens:

    The AD9361 chip arranges to deliver a complex-baseband (ZeroIF) sample stream to the FPGA at some sample-rate     (that is often some multiple of the target sample rate).   The FPGA then uses its DDC implementation to bring the     signal down to the lower sample rate, and PART OF THAT PROCESS inherently involves filtering.  That is then     delivered to the host as a complex baseband signal.   UHD has code that knows how to configure the AD9361     and FPGA elements to deliver what you asked for--including knowledge of what the minimum tuning granularity     of the AD9361 is, so that it can tell the DDC to rotate the signal down to baseband first if necessary.

There are flourishes and nuances of course--there's analog gain blocks involved, quadrature I/Q balancing algorithms in   the AD9361, etc.  The inside of the AD9361 is itself quite complex, and I think you'd need to get the "developer docs"   to get all the information on how it works--but I think that's free and easy to get.

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