Re: [PATCH 83] ptrace(DETACH, SIGKILL) should really kill the tracee

2009-10-11 Thread Roland McGrath
Roland, Jan, what user-space expects ptrace(DETACH, SIGKILL) should do? My guess: this should really kill the tracee asap, hence this patch. As far as killing, it is no more reliable than PTRACE_CONT,SIGKILL. i.e., will fail if it's not stopped, will be dropped on the floor if stopped at

Re: utrace-ptrace ptrace_check_attach()

2009-10-11 Thread Roland McGrath
Issues with ptrace_check_attach(), - it does utrace_control(UTRACE_STOP). This is wrong, ptrace_check_attach() must be passive, while utrace_control(UTRACE_STOP) can actualy stop the tracee. This is not inherently problematic on its own. I'd say it's OK if

CISSE 2009 - Paper Submission Deadline Extended to October 26, 2009.

2009-10-11 Thread CISSE 2009
Dear Colleagues, Due to numerous deadline extension requests from potential CISSE 2009 authors, the CISSE organizing committee has decided to extend the paper submission deadline to 10/26/2009. Please note that this is a hard deadline, so that the technical committees can perform their paper

Re: utrace-ptrace detach with signal semantics

2009-10-11 Thread Roland McGrath
I'm replying out of order. So I'm sorry I started rehashing some of this same stuff in the other thread before reading where you'd already referred to it. What if the tracee reports a signal and stops, the tracer detaches but does not wake it up because of SIGNAL_STOP_STOPPED ? In this case

Re: utrace-ptrace detach with signal semantics

2009-10-11 Thread Roland McGrath
I think always-reply-to-all is the best policy ;) For some people's mail-handling habits it makes a difference, so it is always safest not to trim individuals. For me personally, I always see the list copies just the same as the ones CC'd to me personally, so I don't care to be in the CC list