Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

2010-01-28 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Jim Keniston jkeni...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:54 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: ... I think the best solution for user probes (by far) is to use a simplified in-kernel instruction emulator for the few common probes instruction. (Kprobes already partially decodes x86

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Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

2010-01-28 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 08:52 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: That said, I also suspect that people should still look seriously at simply just improving ptrace. For example, I suspect that the biggest problem with ptrace is really just the signalling, and that creating a new extension for

Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

2010-01-28 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: like returning a fd to poll() on ? :-) Well, there's the possibility of async polling (rather than the synchronous wait that ptrace forces now), but there are other advantages to having a connection model - like not having to look up the

Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

2010-01-28 Thread Jim Keniston
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 09:55 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Jim Keniston jkeni...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:54 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: ... Yes, emulating push %ebp would buy us a lot of coverage for a lot of apps on x86 (but see below**). [...] ... [...] Even

Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

2010-01-28 Thread Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:55:02AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: ... Lets compare the two cases via a drawing. Your current uprobes submission does: [kernel] do probe thing single-step trap ^| ^ | |v |