Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Anderson
The best way that I know to protect against hardware failure and data loss (the rm -rf / instead of rm -rf . type) is to run incremented backups. This, of course, isn't a live filesystem level backup solution, but this is what I do: I have a virtual server. I am concerned about /home and /etc. On

Re: [uug] disk scanner

2007-10-22 Thread Nathaniel Price
Disclaimer: I have very little experience in this area, and none with RAID arrays. Proceed at your own risk. Usually, I'll use the diagnostic utilities that hard-disk manufacturers provide to determine hardware-level failures. I'd be very surprised if they were destructive, but I can't say for

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Robert LeBlanc
DRBD, disconnected mirrored file system, works really good. Can only view the mirror after the primary fails though. Robert On 10/22/07 12:23 PM, "Alberto Treviño" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a problem that I would like to solve the cheap way. I'm thinking > of buying two identical ser

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Alberto Treviño
On Monday 22 October 2007 01:20:25 pm Michael L Torrie wrote: > My only problem with this scheme is that it while it can account for > a hard drive failure, it can't do anything about my own stupidity, or > data corruption. If the data on disk 1 is stirred, it's stirred on > disk 2. This is the ma

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Michael L Torrie
Matthew J. Probst wrote [-1 top posting, -1 no trimming]: >LVM can be run on top of drbd.. so you can have the added protection >of lvm snapshots to protect from user errors/file system corruption. Sure. But my point was that, for the reasons I gave, drbd isn't the best thing for what I w

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew J. Probst
LVM can be run on top of drbd.. so you can have the added protection of lvm snapshots to protect from user errors/file system corruption. -matt Michael L Torrie wrote: Matthew J. Probst wrote: Hi Alberto, What you are looking for is DRBD ([1]http://www.drbd.org/). It can do the on

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Michael L Torrie
Matthew J. Probst wrote: > Hi Alberto, > > What you are looking for is DRBD (http://www.drbd.org/). > > It can do the one way synchronous replication of the block device > beneath a file system you are looking for. You can also use version 8 > of drbd for bi-directional replication of a block de

Re: [uug] disk scanner

2007-10-22 Thread Adam Findley
I don't know of anything comparable. And I wish I could a afford a copy myself to see it perform. Adam On 10/22/07, Daniel Dilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, that looks like what I need, however I don't have $89 to purchase it. > I don't suppose that there is some free alternative, is ther

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Lloyd Brown
I've never actually used it, but you might look into DRBD (http://www.drbd.org/). My understanding is that it mirrors over the network at the block device level. I've been told, though, that you have to be careful, especially when the amount of I/O ops is pretty high. Again, I'm completely in

Re: [uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew J. Probst
Hi Alberto, What you are looking for is DRBD (http://www.drbd.org/). It can do the one way synchronous replication of the block device beneath a file system you are looking for. You can also use version 8 of drbd for bi-directional replication of a block device below a clustered file system (suc

[uug] Live mirrored filesystems over network on Linux

2007-10-22 Thread Alberto Treviño
I have a problem that I would like to solve the cheap way. I'm thinking of buying two identical servers and virtualize all my servers. I looked into buying two servers with no storage and a storage server, but that is too expensive. It is cheaper to buy two servers with storage on each one.

Re: [uug] disk scanner

2007-10-22 Thread Daniel Dilts
Yeah, that looks like what I need, however I don't have $89 to purchase it. I don't suppose that there is some free alternative, is there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Findley Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:14 AM To: BYU Unix User

Re: [uug] disk scanner

2007-10-22 Thread Adam Findley
Hands down, I think this is the best program out there. It's not free, but it sure is thorough and non-destructive: http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm It's saved more people's drives than probably any other thing out there. Adam On 10/21/07, Daniel Dilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 2x