Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Smith
> On 11/28/2011 02:53 PM, Richard Holden wrote: >> But never ever try to extort money from a current employer by saying you >> "have another offer" that you want them to match. I have always lived by this rule, because I thought it was a slime-ball thing to do to an employer. But my opinion is

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Liam Brown
On 11/28/2011 02:53 PM, Richard Holden wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jan L. Peterson mailto:jlp%2bbyu...@peterson.ath.cx>> wrote: I would recommend *not* doing this. Sure, you got a raise at your current job, but now your current employer knows that you're not happy t

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Daniel Fussell
On 11/28/2011 05:25 PM, Bryan Murdock wrote: > > This is right in line with the best advice I ever got. If you love > your current job, but the money isn't right, tell your manager exactly > that so that you can work together to fix the problem. > > Now, if the company is dysfunctional, your manag

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Bryan Murdock
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Richard Holden wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jan L. Peterson > wrote: >> >> I would recommend *not* doing this.  Sure, you got a raise at your >> current job, but now your current employer knows that you're not happy >> there and are looking elsewh

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Eric Olsen
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Richard Holden wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jan L. Peterson < > jlp+byu...@peterson.ath.cx> wrote: > >> >> I would recommend *not* doing this. Sure, you got a raise at your >> current job, but now your current employer knows that you're not happy

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Richard Holden
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jan L. Peterson wrote: > > I would recommend *not* doing this. Sure, you got a raise at your > current job, but now your current employer knows that you're not happy > there and are looking elsewhere. They'll be making sure they have a > replacement for you as s

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Jan L. Peterson
On 11/28/2011 11:39 AM, Eric Olsen wrote: > My advice for any who have a job, in negotiating a new job, is to play > your current employee against your potential new employee. This may not > work for everyone, for example if you can't risk staying at your current > place of employment, but I didn't

Re: [uug] tar and ginormous sparse files

2011-11-28 Thread Jason Van Patten
On 11/28/2011 12:26 PM, Daniel Fussell wrote: So I'm cleaning up an old user home directory, archiving it with tar --sparse -czf , and verifying the archive with tar --compare -zf. This user has only about a gig or two of data. I leave and let tar do it's archiving, and come back the next day

[uug] tar and ginormous sparse files

2011-11-28 Thread Daniel Fussell
So I'm cleaning up an old user home directory, archiving it with tar --sparse -czf , and verifying the archive with tar --compare -zf . This user has only about a gig or two of data. I leave and let tar do it's archiving, and come back the next day when I have time to watch the compare. But

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Eric Olsen
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Peter Konrad Konneker wrote: > I'm still technically a student, though I do have a full-time job > already. :) > > Any advice on negotiating is welcome, though. Will be looking for a new > job eventually. My advice for any who have a job, in negotiating a new jo

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Murphy Randle
Thanks, that's some good advice. I can see how this will come in useful in the future. The last internship offer I had took a really really long time to get back to me. At that time, I hadn't applied anywhere else, so I was ok. But I'm sure this will be needed in the future. :) Murphy On Sat, Nov

Re: [uug] Beware the Exploding Offer

2011-11-28 Thread Peter Konrad Konneker
I'm still technically a student, though I do have a full-time job already. :) Any advice on negotiating is welcome, though. Will be looking for a new job eventually. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Stuart Jansen wrote: > Are there still any students on the UUG list? > > Just in case there are.