Hi - [this message is probably only of interest to people running a development version of vpopmail (post 4.10.3) with their domains on NFS mounted drives] I noticed in a recent version of vpopmail (version 4.10.3), the delivery method (deliver_mail) has stopped delivering to the Maildir/tmp (from now on referred to as /tmp) directory first in order to remove a system call to rename from the code (the /tmp file was then linked to Maildir/new - referred to from now on as /new). I've been looking at the new code (version 4.10.14) and it appears to be going straight to the /new directory now which is incorrect if you are trying to follow the Maildir algorithm (that ensures safe/guaranteed delivery, requires no locking under NFS etc). The whole point of delivering first to /tmp and then linking this file to /new is to stop corrupt messages ever hitting Maildir/new and to ensure reliable delivery under NFS failures/machine crashes etc. Once a message is linked from /tmp to /new (and then stat()'d to make sure its there) the idea is that it guaranteed not to be incomplete/undelivered. After linking it to the /new area, assuming there is no error we can remove the /tmp file. With the development versions (4.10.3+) if the server crashes during delivery (mid file write) this will leave a corrupt message on the server in the /new delivery area, something the Maildir format is designed not to do.. Admittedly Qmail will probably try and redeliver the message as it has not been delivered successfully but without the initial delivery to /tmp a user can receive corrupt messages. There is also a bug for NFS in that fsync() (or fdatasync?) is not called on the file vdelivermail writes to in the delivery area so you do not guarantee it has actually been written. This means the file can be successfully delivered according to vdelivermail but in reality only locally cached and not written out (commited?) to the NFS drive. Vdelivermail will have returned success but if the machine crashes at this point the mail can potentially disappear if the NFS mount doesnt recover properly. Is there any reason (other than optimisation) that these calls have been removed (or in the case of the missing fsync not implemented)? Marcus -- Marcus Williams - http://www.onq2.com Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Rd, Cambridge, CB3 9EY