Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-10 Thread Steven Job
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: get over yourselves. you abandoned vpopmail. your own support staff were unable to support your paying customers - they had to go to the vpopmail mailing list for help, and once there were helped by *the community*, not their vendor. that's a

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-10 Thread dalmata
De: Paul L. Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff writes: It is a time to call together everyone on this list to insist that Tom Collins add Ken Jones or another representative from Inter7. I've been using vpopmail for a few years now and didn't really care

[vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff
In an attempt to articulate the misgivings of the current politics on the vchkpw mailing list, Inter7 has prepared the following issues for your consideration: 1. Since moving the projects to SourceForge, we've kept up with submitted patches and bug reports. I feel that making the move was

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
ahem. this is not a good response, very, very disappointing. comments below. At 12:44 PM 9/9/2003, Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff wrote: 2. I'm certainly not doing this to be malicious or to hurt Ken and Inter7, Tom Collins. This is irrelevant and to mention so implies that your intentions may be

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 9 september 2003 21.44 skrev Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff: For seven years, Inter7 has been the original and primary development source for vpopmail, qmailadmin, vQadmin, eps, vQregister, DNSadmin, Incorrect, let me remind you vpopmail itself is a fork off of the work by Chris

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Nick Harring
Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff wrote: In an attempt to articulate the misgivings of the current politics on the vchkpw mailing list, Inter7 has prepared the following issues for your consideration: 1. Since moving the projects to SourceForge, we've kept up with submitted patches and bug reports. I

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Ken Jones
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 4:14 pm, Oden Eriksson wrote: tisdagen den 9 september 2003 21.44 skrev Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff: For seven years, Inter7 has been the original and primary development source for vpopmail, qmailadmin, vQadmin, eps, vQregister, DNSadmin, Incorrect, let me remind

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread JB
Inter7 remains supportive of all efforts to enhance the development process. However, we cannot publicly back the development efforts of Tom Collins' work without administrative privileges on SourceForge. It is a time to call together everyone on this list to insist that Tom Collins add Ken

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 02:46 PM 9/9/2003, Ken Jones wrote: In the same spirit of community and co-operation, Bill Shupp took over primary development for quite some time. Our last combined release was in April. How has what Tom has done been any different, up to the conflict that's recently come to light? Since you

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff
Nick, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I was not replying to you personally or attempting to answer any questions you may have. Furthermore, I'm afraid that you may have missed the point: we want to support Tom Collins on SourceForge. Regards, Catherine

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Collins
On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 03:18 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: a question for tom, if ken does participate as a developer, and contributes in a manner representative of a lead developer, at a later time would you consider adding him as an administrator? Definitely. Up until now, I

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff
Good afternoon Paul, I'm afraid you too may have taken this personally. I choose my grammatically inferred semantics wisey. Remember, may, is only a possibility. I understand your email as a misunderstanding to the position Inter7 is taking: we want to be able to support Tom Collins. Rejoice

[vchkpw] Old releases, was: Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Anders Brander
Hey, On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 01:26, Oden Eriksson wrote: If you want to check in old stuff for historical reasons or whatever, I think I have at least 80% of all the releases at my site, it's at: http://www.deserve-it.com/sw/src/ Thanks man! You're a lifesaver! I just used almost an two hours

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Chris Pugh
I'm afraid you too may have taken this personally. I choose my grammatically inferred semantics wisey. Remember, may, is only a possibility. This all seems to be getting very heated and personal. As a relative newcomer to this list, care to enlighten me as what all the fuss is about? And

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 9 september 2003 23.46 skrev Ken Jones: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 4:14 pm, Oden Eriksson wrote: tisdagen den 9 september 2003 21.44 skrev Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff: For seven years, Inter7 has been the original and primary development source for vpopmail, qmailadmin,

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 10 september 2003 00.34 skrev Tom Collins: [...] I have been learning about CVS today, and will have a CVS repository of the current versions of vpopmail and qmailadmin available within the next 24 hours. I want to make sure I have a full understanding of how CVS works so I can

Re: [vchkpw] Inter7, vpopmail, and open source standards

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 03:37 PM 9/9/2003, Ms. Catherine Kouzmanoff wrote: Good afternoon Paul, I'm afraid you too may have taken this personally. I choose my grammatically inferred semantics wisey. Remember, may, is only a possibility. well, we can play wisey word games all day. You *may* be a controlling