Re: [vdr] Build plugin with different headers then in VDR distribution

2008-09-07 Thread Michael Stepanov
Thanks a lot, Clemens, for your reply. This is my mistake that I didn't explain clearly what actually I need. I use LinuxMCE (http://linuxmce.com) with integrated VDR 1.6.0. I have just VDR headers and binary. So, I can easily build any plugins which have debian patch using dpkg-buildpackage. In th

Re: [vdr] Build plugin with different headers then in VDR distribution

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
"Michael Stepanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what does "VDR distribution" mean? the vdr source code? what are you > > trying to achieve? i guess you have to download the "desired" vdr > > version, copy your plugins into its PLUGINS/src directory and > > compile them as usual. > Yes, I mean

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i always wondered why dvb support was directly compiled in while > > other back and frontends were supposed to be plugins. this clearly > > leaves a sign that dvb is the "preferd" plattform. > > Well, it was the first one - long before there even w

Re: [vdr] Recommended xine settings for Arte HD ?

2008-09-07 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 11:03:46PM +0200, Artem Makhutov wrote: > What CPU do you have (MHz)? Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4GHz. > Have you tried compiling it with gcc -O3 ? Yes. > I would like to know, if there is a performance increase, when compiling > ffmpeg with gcc -O3 instead of -O2. Not for

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 09/07/08 19:42, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > ... > i always wondered why dvb support was directly compiled in while other > back and frontends were supposed to be plugins. this clearly leaves a > sign that dvb is the "preferd" plattform. Well, it was the first one - long before there even was

Re: [vdr] Recommended xine settings for Arte HD ?

2008-09-07 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, Gregoire Favre schrieb: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 01:14:51PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 01:14:23PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:18:02PM +0400, Goga777 wrote: >>> yes, but for me it's not errors, it's only information messages, no

Re: [vdr] Fw: about eHD from Reelmultimedia (was - VDR Development)

2008-09-07 Thread Georg Acher
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:09:11AM +0400, Goga777 wrote: > Yes right that might be an option for short time. > Micronas stopped the support of the used chips I think. Support!=availability > How many boards can be equipped with the available chips AFAIK we have received no "last order date

[vdr] Fw: about eHD from Reelmultimedia (was - VDR Development)

2008-09-07 Thread Goga777
I have resent with more correct subject :) Дата: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:51:54 +0200 От: Halim Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Кому: vdr@linuxtv.org Тема: Re: [vdr] VDR Development Hello, On So, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:25:56 +0200, Georg Acher wrote: > Been there, done that already :-) The HDE from Reel d

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Halim Sahin
Hello, On So, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:25:56 +0200, Georg Acher wrote: > Been there, done that already :-) The HDE from Reel decodes h264, I wrote a > lot of the driver stuff for it. So there is (at least one) h264-decoder > card, and btw, vdr is the main platform for the HDE. Yes right that might be an

[vdr] vdr channels.conf compatibility

2008-09-07 Thread David Hláčik
Hello, my question is? Does dvb-apps 1.1.1 and their utility scan support vdr 1.6 format? dvb-apps 1.1.1 is official tarball on dvb-apps website. Thanks! David ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Build plugin with different headers then in VDR distribution

2008-09-07 Thread Michael Stepanov
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Clemens Kirchgatterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > "Michael Stepanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need to have a possibility to build VDR plugins using headers which > > are different then in VDR distribution. > > what does "VDR distribution" mean? the vdr sou

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Oliver Endriss
Georg Acher wrote: > I also don't think that a vdr-repository would help in the development > speed. Either the whole development procedure needs to be changed (more > maintainer with KLS's approval) or it has no advantage compared to the > .tgz-distribution. > > But I think the repository stuff i

Re: [vdr] eHD from RMM (was - VDR Development)

2008-09-07 Thread Goga777
> > Help to develope an fullfeatured, h264 capable card, or hw accelerated > > Been there, done that already :-) The HDE from Reel decodes h264, I wrote a > lot of the driver stuff for it. So there is (at least one) h264-decoder > card, and btw, vdr is the main platform for the HDE. btw - recentl

Re: [vdr] Build plugin with different headers then in VDR distribution

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
"Michael Stepanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to have a possibility to build VDR plugins using headers which > are different then in VDR distribution. what does "VDR distribution" mean? the vdr source code? what are you trying to achieve? i guess you have to download the "desired" vdr ve

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Georg Acher
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:21:04PM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > > > * help to add dvb-s2 support into main kernel!! > > > > Which one? > > I don't know. :-) I guess nobody does... > But I have forgotten another important point: > > Help to develope an fullfeatured, h264 capable card, or hw a

Re: [vdr] h264 patch for vdr 171 (was -[ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1)

2008-09-07 Thread Goga777
Hi, Klaus thanks for your work. what about h264 patch ? will it update ? Goga ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread VDR User
With regards to dvb cards that include mpeg4 hardware decoders... There aren't many even in development and the ones that do actually (if they do) make it to production will be very expensive. At the cost of the card you can build a pc capable of the same and a lot more for your money. In convers

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Goga777
> > VDR does need some of its core functionality upgraded - for example > > something like the Reel channel scan is badly missing, you should be > > able to easily scan for transponders from within VDR, just like most > > satellite receivers. +1 > Hmmm. My VDR automatically updates its channel

[vdr] Build plugin with different headers then in VDR distribution

2008-09-07 Thread Michael Stepanov
Hi, I need to have a possibility to build VDR plugins using headers which are different then in VDR distribution. Does somebody knows how to do it? Thanks in advance. -- Cheers, Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-b

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Georg Acher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also don't think that a vdr-repository would help in the development > speed. Either the whole development procedure needs to be changed > (more maintainer with KLS's approval) or it has no advantage compared > to the .tgz-distribution. maybe using git,

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On So, Sep 07, 2008 at 06:44:46 +0200, Georg Acher wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:46:01PM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > > FULLACK Oliver, > > You have forgotten the point: > > > > * help to add dvb-s2 support into main kernel!! > > Which one? I don't know. But I have forgotten another im

Re: [vdr] new rolloff paramemter in channels.conf for vdr 1.7.0

2008-09-07 Thread Goga777
> > As Manu explained me it's not possible to set manually rolloff/FEC for > > stb0899. > > that's why I'm wondering - what for need the new roll off (parameter O) > > parameter in channels.conf ? Only for reading > > the current state of roll off in demod ? (0,35% is default for dvb-s/s2 > > BP

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Oliver Endriss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, I can't stand this blabla any longer. Then don't read this thread. > Klaus stated clearly how he wants to do VDR development, and he has the > right to do it his way! No matter whether you like it or not! What's yo

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Georg Acher
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:46:01PM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > FULLACK Oliver, > You have forgotten the point: > > * help to add dvb-s2 support into main kernel!! Which one? SCNR :-) I also don't think that a vdr-repository would help in the development speed. Either the whole development proce

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Oliver Endriss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, I can't stand this blabla any longer. why do you read the blabla then and even bother feeding the thread? please be so tolerant and let people discuss VDR related topics on the vdr mailing list. thank you. > Klaus stated clearly how he wants to d

[vdr] Subtitles not shown after language change

2008-09-07 Thread Tero Siironen
Hi, I noticed a problem with multi-language broadcast with subtitles or actually playback of recording of that (I didn't watch it in live). The clip is mainly having swedish audio, but during the interviews audio is finnish. However audio track seems to marked as swedish only. During the s

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Bruno
Just a couple of observations on this discussion.. I see that some advocates of VDR repository are calling Myth project 'bloated','kitchen sink', 'not alternative to VDR'…, but, at the same time, they are pushing VDR project the same way, which will virtually transform VDR into sort of Myth-2,

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Halim Sahin
FULLACK Oliver, You have forgotten the point: * help to add dvb-s2 support into main kernel!! Danke Gruß Halim On So, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:08:37 +0200, Oliver Endriss wrote: > Guys, I can't stand this blabla any longer. > > Klaus stated clearly how he wants to do VDR development, and he has the

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Oliver Endriss
Guys, I can't stand this blabla any longer. Klaus stated clearly how he wants to do VDR development, and he has the right to do it his way! No matter whether you like it or not! My suggestion for those who are unhappy with the current situation: 0. Stop this discussion. 1. Read the GPL. 2. Unders

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 09/07/08 16:48, Luca Olivetti wrote: > El Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:11:35 +0200 > Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > t. >>+ cTransfer no longer uses cRemux, and doesn't run a separate >> thread any more. It just generates a PAT/PMT and sends all received >> TS packets to the primary

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Luca Olivetti
El Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:11:35 +0200 Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: t. >+ cTransfer no longer uses cRemux, and doesn't run a separate > thread any more. It just generates a PAT/PMT and sends all received > TS packets to the primary device's PlayTs(). Just asking before I try to

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread VDR User
Glad to see some discussion taking place here.. It's quite funny some people think hdtv, h264, and other standard or quickly-becoming-standard things are "bleeding edge". You've got to be kidding! Also, to put it simply, it's ignorant to think there's nothing wrong. When many VDR users are aban

Re: [vdr] VDR Development (Number of users)

2008-09-07 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi Hans > > How did you calculate that number? > > By counting the downloads of fixes (which are only made once with the internal update script). And I guess that some users will never update a running system ... -- Helmut Auer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR-1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Udo Richter
Hi list, A minimal update to the DVB API wrapper for VDR 1.7.1 is available on my web site. http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.en.html#dvb-api-wrapper http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.html#dvb-api-wrapper Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list v

Re: [vdr] VDR Development (Number of users)

2008-09-07 Thread Hans Werner
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:31:22 +0200 > Von: Helmut Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: VDR Mailing List > Betreff: Re: [vdr] VDR Development (Number of users) > Hi > > On 09/05/08 18:38, VDR User wrote: > > > >> ... Seeing how > >> many people have already

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 09/07/08 13:55, Jelle De Loecker wrote: > Multiproto_plus is quite outdated, Manu (the maintainer) has done a > bunch of updates on the original multiproto tree > (http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto) > He even added support for the old API (yay) and merged the latest V4L > tree with it. > > Basic

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 09/07/08 13:48, Udo Richter wrote: > The sky plugin does not compile any more, because it uses PID_MASK_HI > which got renamed to TS_PID_MASK_HI. Patch is attached. Thanks. At some point I guess I should just drop the sky plugin, since it's of no real use any more... Klaus __

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Jelle De Loecker
Multiproto_plus is quite outdated, Manu (the maintainer) has done a bunch of updates on the original multiproto tree (http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto) He even added support for the old API (yay) and merged the latest V4L tree with it. Basically, it compiles and it "just works" with everything :)

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Udo Richter
The sky plugin does not compile any more, because it uses PID_MASK_HI which got renamed to TS_PID_MASK_HI. Patch is attached. A similar problem strikes for streamdev. Cheers, Udo --- vdr-1.7.1-old/PLUGINS/src/sky/sky.c 2008-09-07 13:34:53.0 +0200 +++ vdr-1.7.1/PLUGINS/src/sky/sky.c

Re: [vdr] VDR Development (Number of users)

2008-09-07 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi > On 09/05/08 18:38, VDR User wrote: > >> ... Seeing how >> many people have already left VDR, it's already happening! :( >> > > I have no idea how many people actually use VDR, but you apparently > have some solid numbers on how many people dropped VDR. > Do you mind sharing these num

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:11:35PM +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > This version marks the first step towards using TS (Transport Stream) as > recording format. It does this by switching the Transfer Mode to TS and > introducing all the necessary cDevice and cPlayer functions to handle TS. > Actu

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR maintenance patch 1.6.0-2

2008-09-07 Thread Thomas Creutz
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > VDR maintenance patch 1.6.0-2 is now available at > Thanks :-) Have a nice day! Thomas ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

[vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.1

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
VDR developer version 1.7.1 is now available at ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.7.1.tar.bz2 A 'diff' against the previous version is available at ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.7.0-1.7.1.diff WARNING: This is a *developer* version. Even though *I* use

[vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR maintenance patch 1.6.0-2

2008-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
VDR maintenance patch 1.6.0-2 is now available at ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.6.0-2.diff This is a 'diff' against version 1.6.0-1 (which is the official version 1.6.0, patched with ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.6.0-1.diff). Small fixes to the officially released V

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Lauri Tischler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Switching to MythTV is *not* a solution to anything. MythTV is slow > huge, kitchen sink where nothing really works. maybe s/MythTV/XBMC/g ? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin

Re: [vdr] VDR Development

2008-09-07 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Laz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have always been impressed with the quality of the source code for > vdr. It's the first proper C++ application I've had course to look > through in any detail (many, many years of pure C behind me, though!) > and I've pretty much learned all of the C++ I know fr