Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Anderson
Yes we to are a veritas / netapp shop. The features look extremely interesting until you look at the pricetag that is attached. Veritas charges per gig for the storage behind the technology even though they have nothing to do with that storage. From what we have seen equated to our needs, it is

RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
In our case, we could. However, if the tape drive was reserved by another server, then it wouldn't be properly discovered & built into Netbackup's config stuff. The OS could see an unassigned one just fine. -M -Original Message- From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednes

Re: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Tim Berger
The only problem I had with SSO on Linux with 5.1MP3 was adding tape drives that were in use by other hosts. Other than that, it's working fine on our spectra 64k with AIT-2 (eeep). I'm upgrading to LTO-3 real soon now. That's why I'm moving to Linux - for the speed and massive storage for dssu

RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
In our case, we could. However, if the tape drive was reserved by another server, then it wouldn't be properly discovered & built into Netbackup's config stuff. The OS could see an unassigned one just fine. -M -Original Message- From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednes

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 Encryption Option Cost?

2005-11-30 Thread Piszcz, Justin
Does anyone know what the cost is for this add-on product under 5.1? It allows multiple levels of encryption, AES 128, 256, Triple DES(?) etc—not just the legacy DES 56bit/etc encryption.       Choose an option: 3   Choose an option: q     You have chosen to install these Add-On P

RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
Actually the problem was at the OS level. It wouldn't see tape drives through the bridges properly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:25 PM To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subj

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups

2005-11-30 Thread william . d . brown
I think you have got to tell us a bit more about the issue you are trying to address. Are you looking to get rid of tape altogether? Or are you looking at alternatives as a primary backup, with a tape as secondary offsite copy? Could you use the ability of FalconStor and NetApps to clone data

Re: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread James Pattinson
Dan, You don't need to upgrade all your clients, in fact you don't even need to upgrade your media servers. Just upgrade the master (yes you need the pbx part of ICS installed first) and don't forget to run nbpushdata afterwards. Good luck James Dan Dobbs wrote: Greetings, list. Here's

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups

2005-11-30 Thread Charles Ballowe
Being that you're a NetApp shop - I'm thinking you need to take a look at some of the capabilities of NetApp as storage unit. Veritas + NetApp were pushing some features very hard at pre-6.0 presentations and, if I worked in a NetApp shop, I'd be trying some of them right now. Some "de-duplication"

RE: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups

2005-11-30 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message I haven't looked at any options yet, and may be accused of being a shill, but I attended a falconstor presentation a couple weeks ago, and was pretty impressed.   no proprietary hardware.image install off of CD onto pre-tested intel platforms, and attaches to your existin

[Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups

2005-11-30 Thread Hindle, Greg
Title: VTL vs. Disk based backups We are looking at VTL technologies with EMC being the front leader. We are looking at upgrading to netbackup 6.0 Solaris 10 soon. My backup partner in crime disagree with the direction we should go. I think we should go with disk based backups and my partner

[Veritas-bu] Can a cluster use a SAN media server license to backup bothe physical nodes?

2005-11-30 Thread Bob Stump
I think I may have to use a full media server license?? server-V = virtual server-A = physical server-B = physical I have installed a SAN media server license on server-V to backup the common drives and this works fine. However, when I try to backup the local drives on each individual physical

[Veritas-bu] scheduling/retry/priority question

2005-11-30 Thread Charles Ballowe
Suppose there's 2 policies: policy x: 1 client 8 multiplex priority 2 policy y: 20 clients 8 multiplex priority 1 both policies have the same retention time, start time, etc and are streaming to the same drive. If the client in policy x fails for some reason and is re-que

RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
The problems were mostly related to SSO - problems discovering devices & managing scsi reserves placed by other media servers on shared tape drives. Those using one-drive-one-server architectures didn't seem to have complaints. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
I don't have answers to what you wrote but did want to caution you about using RH for your master. I've not been able to get RH EL AS 3 to properly recognize my SAN environment. From an earlier thread on this list it appears I wasn't the only one. Not sure if you're running SAN or direct SCSI b

[Veritas-bu] yes sir, obviously insane (6.0 upgrade question)

2005-11-30 Thread Dan Dobbs
Greetings, list. Here's my situation. I have a HP-UX media/master server on 5.1 with a newer Neo SDLT bot and an ancient DLT4000 Surestore bot. We're going to be getting a shiny new Red Hat box soon to take over migrate backup services. I've just read the upgrade docs for 6.0, and I have to say

RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
Title: Message All these problems makes me think you'd be good to check your driver settings for these tape drives.  Make sure, if nothing else, that you have variable blocks enabled.   -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of WEAVER,

RE: [Veritas-bu] bpduplicate

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
The man page is your friend: bpduplicate: [-dstunit ][,,...,]] [-p] [-pb] [-PM] [-PD] [-v] [-local] [-client ] [-Bidfile ] [-st ] [-sl ] [-L [-en]] [-dp [,,...,] [-policy ] [-s mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS] [-e mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS] [-pt ] [-hoursago ] [[-cn ] | [-primary]]

RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require O pinions

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
Error 191: >bperror -S 191 -r no images were successfully processed A verify, duplicate, or import was attempted and failed for all selected images. Try the following: * Check the NetBackup Problems report for the cause of the error. To obtain detailed troubleshooting information, create an adm

RE: [Veritas-bu] tapes

2005-11-30 Thread Mark . Donaldson
You need to have the associated policy set for "allow multiple streams" and enough streams to spread across your tape drives. Turn the mpx/drive setting down on the schedule if necesary to limit the number of streams per drive. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[Veritas-bu] Remote silent patch installation

2005-11-30 Thread ida3248b
Hello All As I remember there was a posting on this list about doing remote silent patch installation on windows. I haven't been able to find it, does somebody have this post or know how to do it ? Regards Michael -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk)

RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 4.5 client on RH4 - supported?

2005-11-30 Thread Dave Weiler
Title: Message On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 16:19 +0100, Jonas Blåberg wrote: But is it supported to use a NB 5.X client together with NB 4.5 server at all? I know there is backward compatibility but is there forward compatibility as well? No, you have to have the master/media server at the sam

RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message or just stop NBU, unmount /opt/openv on the master, create a new slice, mount it as /opt/openv and install and bprecover on the new slice. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeanSent: November 30, 2005 3:21 AMT

[Veritas-bu] bpduplicate

2005-11-30 Thread Atif Munir
I am duplicating some backup for off site and want to change the retention. Is there a way that i can do it by using the bpduplicate .I am not interested to do it by using the bar code neither by using the backup job idmay i have some switch of bpduplicate while doing the duplicate. __

Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.0 NOM - Backwards compatability?

2005-11-30 Thread william . d . brown
When they did the webcast I asked - answer was "Yes when MP1 ships, due Jan 2006". So, don't try too hard just yet William D L Brown ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ver

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 Thread Dean
I can't recall what 191 means right now. But, one thing I discovered recently - I was trying to import an old DLT tape and it kept failing due to a media error somewhere on the tape. I only needed to recover a single file so there was a good chance that bit of the tape was still OK. I had a stand

RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message Dean They are failing due to (what veritas say) is bad media NBU Activity Monitor shows status 191 !     Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Dean [mailto:[

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 Thread Dean
I would not mess with the production "working" master server. Wiping out your active catalog on purpose and relying on bprecover to get it back sounds ... risky. Not that I've ever seen bprecover fail, but I believe in NOT tempting fate. Is it possible to have a 'spare' server sitting around, wit