[Veritas-bu] Re: Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

Hi Some of you mentioned abt backing up client using multiplexing to VTL and then do de multiplex when duplicating to actual LTO tape. How is the process done? Using a special policy? Or bpdbplicate/Vault already able to do it automatically for u? This de multiplexing is different for disk st

[Veritas-bu] Re: Multiplexing Query

Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to say there are 3 policies altogether for the 3 clients. So its only 3 policies not 9. I'm not using data streaming. But i term of VTL context, was jus wondering if i use data streaming to Virtual Tapes, i still can de stream all the images from different

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

Nothing speaks like experience. Your experience was that Vault didn't work for you, and I'm glad to see you tried mpx and not. I completely agree about the big files/small files thing. I also know that I've been able to dupe pretty stinking fast WITH Vault from a VTL, so MAYBE the problem was

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

If you use a storage unit group (available for a few versions now) or "any available," any available media server can backup any other media server's client, or at least any clients that are configured that way. Still don't have an answer to your other question. ;) --- W. Curtis Preston A

Re: [Veritas-bu] Synthetic Full Backups

I'm a big fan, but I would agree that they're not for everybody. One thing that makes them faster is using disk as the target (at least) and the source (hopefully). --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies ---

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4

IBM has released their drives at the end of last month. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kiles Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:14 PM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 Any idea when LTO4 drives/media starts

Re: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting Question

If you back up the data using separate policies then each policy can have a different retention level (0-24). These can all have a one month retention period within DataDomain but will also have different retention levels. You can then use the retention mappings within the vault to have a differe

Re: [Veritas-bu] Synthetic Full Backups

This was some time ago, but I found synthetic backups to be either irrelevant (due to restrictions on their applicability) or unusable (due to the occasional problems that seem to require new full backups) at my shop (v5.1). That, and the last thing that my shop needed were more long tape-to-

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

OKso now I have to disagree with Curtis on his disagreement We tried using Vault with both preserving of Multiplexing and doing de-multiplexing on the vault copies. In both cases, we did not get very good throughput. Most of my time was spent trying to balance the amount of space on the

[Veritas-bu] Synthetic Full Backups

I am curious if anyone is using the Synthetic Full Backup feature that is provided with Netbackup now. If people are using it, what issues if any have you come across with this feature and what specific workload have you applied this feature to? Also, what benefits have you seen ? Thanks! Ma

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

Curtis Preston wrote: Steven L. Sesar said: The way that CommVault does it with Gridstor is that each media server shares an index cache (the equivalent of NBU's catalog/databases) via NFS or CIFS. I call it a "poor man's clustered filesystem". It affords one the luxury of pooling media se

[Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Syman

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

Steven L. Sesar said: >The way that CommVault does it with Gridstor is that each media server >shares an index cache (the equivalent of NBU's catalog/databases) via >NFS or CIFS. I call it a "poor man's clustered filesystem". It affords >one the luxury of pooling media servers, such that if on

[Veritas-bu] scratch pool compliance

I would like to ensure that tapes within my scratch pool are re-used within a certain number of weeks or the data completely wiped off of them. Is there anyway veritas can do a wipe of the tape before releasing it back into the scratch pool? If not is there any way one can think of scripting such

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4

I'm pretty sure if you used VHS Media in a TLH compatible robot Netbackup would use it. As far as support goes, my understanding is that NBU 5.1 support is ending this fall, so once released LTO4's support (if it exists) is going to be brief. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[Veritas-bu] Vaulting Question

I'm currently backing all of my systems up to DataDomain restorers with a one month retention period for the copy on the restorer and then duplicating from the restorer, using NetBackup Vault, to tape with a six month retention and sending the tapes offsite to Iron Mountain. Recently we decided to

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

> Some of the downsides of using disk as disk are > > 1) Concurrency to disk: if you have multiple media servers, how to ensure > they're cooperating peacefully when reading/writing to the same disk area. > You can do that in several ways: > > * Divide up in separate LUNs. Each media server

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4

IBM drives starting shipping last week. Not sure about nbu support. --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kiles

[Veritas-bu] LTO4

Any idea when LTO4 drives/media starts shipping? Also will NBU5.x will support it? Thanks Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/f

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie to Netbackup using VTL

Warning, long ramble follows... I'll take the middle ground. The existence of a VTL appliance is IMO due to the fact that backup utilities (from now on limited to NBU) are not really stellar at using "disk-as-disk" or DAD. They are reasonably good at using tape, as that has been designed in from t

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Query

and if you have "allow multiple data streams" selected for a policy, you'll probably have more than three jobs (and more than one drive used). (Also, I'm unclear if you have 3 or 9 policies ... this and Ueli's responses are assuming you have no more than one policy for each client). cheers, way

Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 Re: Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to

> I believe the talldoode comment was about the dreaded vmquery > -deassignbyid command, which can definitely shoot you in the foot. In > recent versions, the command is still there, but it complains if you use > it. It does more than complain. It does not process the request in many situations.

Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 Re: Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to

Yeah, bpexpdate is the recommended way to do what you want. I believe the talldoode comment was about the dreaded vmquery -deassignbyid command, which can definitely shoot you in the foot. In recent versions, the command is still there, but it complains if you use it. --- W. Curtis Preston Author

Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

Unfortunately, running cgi commands as anything other than nobody or apache is also considered dangerous. Sounds like you're screwed either way. Have you taken a look at NetBackup Operations Manager? It allows some management functionality via the web. --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly

Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 Re: Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to

> No - it was just Dave talldoode statement about the way command were > recommended to expire tapes. My question was about images so maybe > bpexpdate will leave the catalog corrupted when it expires the tape. bpexpdate expires images. When you give a volume, it expires all copies of images on t

[Veritas-bu] MP4 Re: Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0

No - it was just Dave talldoode statement about the way command were recommended to expire tapes. My question was about images so maybe bpexpdate will leave the catalog corrupted when it expires the tape. Dave said "oh, just do this to expire that pesky tape" makes me cringe. Thanks Carl Mathews

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0 MP4

Of course this email appeared AFTER the link was sent even though it was sent before hand. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:43 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Hampus Lind; Forester, J

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0 MP4

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279 039.pdf Thanks to Paul for the link as well .. Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administra

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0 MP4

Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at both my sites! Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5P

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0 MP4

I didn't see a link there. However we were also given to understand support would go away with release of 6.5. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'Hampus Lind'; 'Fo

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0 MP4

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter /279039.pdf -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM To: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4

Well not the best news to hear did expect 5.1 to be around until 2008 at least ! Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4

Argh...I knew someone was going to ask me that. I should have had that info ready. I found the info on Veritas' site. I'm looking for it again now. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0 MP4

can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ?? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message

Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4

Something else to consider is that end of support for 5.x is in October. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart

Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

I'm not sure what you want to achieve, but if you're looking to provide a CGI script that exposes some netbackup functionality then I'd suggest you elevate the permissions of your CGI appropriately at the points necessary, eg. by running the netbackup commands you care about from within your CGI u

Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

Much appreciated for your input Anderson, Can you suggest a better scenario in which you would be able to run NBU ,master/media server binaries to satisfy the requests initiated through CGI ? Dave -Original Message- From: McCammont, Anderson (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 May 2

Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

Really, this is a bad idea. Putting suid on code that you don't own or haven't reviewed the source code of is a substantial security exposure. You're not only not buying yourself anything (the executables would still be running with and effective UID of root), you're also exposing yourself to a la

[Veritas-bu] Re: Multiplexing Query

hey thanks Ueli Schweizer for the clarification. :) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange Mailbox Backup

Ive sent out 2 links that should be worth a read - more so for the Exchange Admin guru :-) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange Mailbox Backup

Anas speedwise, based on the setup you have, the speed and bp/sec seems to be ok - but if your Exchange Administrator does not know about storage recovery groups or Data Retention on Deleted Mailboxes, you may want to consider a new Exchange Administrator. Maybe have a chat with him, explain tha

Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

All, Thanks for everyone's response, I eventually have setuid on the binaries and changed the group on the binaries to that of the service account being used by apache which all seems to work fine. Suppose the downfall and my vulnerability would lie in the exploitation of netbackup. Regards Da

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Query

Assuming the retention level is same for all three jobs NetBackup will multiplex all three jobs to one single tape. Cheers Ueli Schweizer AGITE Software Zurich . West Palm Beach . London Swiss Headquarter: AGITE Software AG . Boesch 43 . CH-6331 Huenenberg . Switzerland Direct: +41 79 204 9190 .