Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-21 Thread Curtis Preston
You do not have to use VCB to back up VMware. The way Anas is trying to do it is supported. Each method has advantages and disadvantages. This method will have all full backups and you have to figure out how to snapshot the vmdk files. I believe the only problem is that the VMFS filesystem i

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-21 Thread Martin, Jonathan
The Virtual Machines are stored on a VMFS (Virtual Machine File System) which Netbackup doesn't understand. Its a proprietary format developed by VMWare for use in ESX Server (its got advanced capabilities like journaling.) To backup Virtual Machines via the .vmdk you need to use their consolidat

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 23, Issue 38

2008-03-21 Thread Jeff Lightner
Reminds me of old science book I read once. It said that phrases like the speed of light while they imply definite constants do NOT imply definite scales. That is to say it is just as valid to specify the speed of light in Kilometers/hour, miles/sec or furlongs/fortnight. I always loved the id

[Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-21 Thread Anas Kayal
I have a growing VMware ESX farm and have deployed NBU 6 agent on the COS of ESX. When I do a full backup I don't seem to get the VMDK files of the Virtual Machines. What am I doing wrong? Disclaimer ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.au

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 23, Issue 38

2008-03-21 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Well, I'm planning for expansion into the yottabytes but I didn't want to make any of you lesser mortals envious. =P -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peacock Dennis - dpeaco Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:07 PM To: Rosenkoetter, G

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 23, Issue 38

2008-03-21 Thread Peacock Dennis - dpeaco
Or Terabytes per hour when you are backing up almost 2PB every month. :-) Thank You, Dennis Peacock EBCA Acxiom Corporation 501-342-6232 (office) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenkoetter, Gabriel Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:03 PM

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 23, Issue 38

2008-03-21 Thread Rosenkoetter, Gabriel
(Or gigabytes per hour when the vendor really wants to sound impressive and be completely meaningless at the same time.) -- gabriel rosenkoetter Radian Group Inc, Unix/Linux/VMware Sysadmin / Backup & Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED], 215 231 1556 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: [Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-21 Thread Martin, Jonathan
I'd say the hard limit is the amount of throughput you are going to expect. Three 1U Media servers only have so many expansion and bus options versus an 8U Behemoth with expansion and bus speed galore. Then again, if you are using a SAN for disk storage then 1 HBA with 2 x 4Gbit connections makes

[Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.1 on REL 5.1

2008-03-21 Thread seanharv
Turns out I needed ti install VRTSpbx thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 MP4 and firewall ports

2008-03-21 Thread Jeff Lightner
If both ends are at 6.0 MP4 you should just need to open vnetd which is port 13724. Also for 6.0 MP4 you do NOT need to add the client. We have several clients that are running without having been added to master's client setup. (FYI: Even for 5.1 it wasn't in the "Firewall" tab but rather in "

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 MP4 and firewall ports

2008-03-21 Thread Mike Kiles
Can some one please elaborate on what firewall ports we need to open (is it 1566, 13782, 13720 and 13724) Also do we need to add the client (which is behind a firewall) to the 'Firewall' TAB in Master Server Properties and also in 'Client Attributes' Thx _

Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 issue, error 25, jobs fail

2008-03-21 Thread Mike Kiles
Since we are not using BMR functionality yet, disbaling those BMR services is a workaround for us. We are pushing Symantec to include the fix in 6.5.2 MK --- Jeff Lightner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fix is ALWAYS in the "next" release/patch... > > ...and when you find out after that one be

Re: [Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-21 Thread Jeff Lightner
I think your question should rather be - "At what point do you decide you need another master?" Your original question might not gain you the answer you want because most environments only have one master (except for special needs i.e. needing an old 5.1 master to backup clients that can't be m

Re: [Veritas-bu] lto4 fc bottleneck

2008-03-21 Thread Jim VandeVegt
Yes, because your HBA is 1 giga-BIT per second, not 1 giga-byte. A 1 Gbps connection will clear at best 100-110 MBps. If you want to spin LTO4 drives at close to full speed put at most 2 LTO4 drives per modern 4 Gbps FC ports. If you are getting good hardware compression at the drive even that

Re: [Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-21 Thread Jim VandeVegt
We run about 1000 per day, and we are not particularly big. Jim VandeVegt VandeVegt @t yahoo.com, Jim.VandeVegt @t PhysiciansMutual.com Eliminate the IRS and put the fair consumption tax in place. Visit http://www.fairtax.org/ - Original Message From: Bancal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VE

Re: [Veritas-bu] lto4 fc bottleneck

2008-03-21 Thread Jim H
Or to put it another way. The backplane of your switch is the limiting factor. If the switch is oversubscribed(too many devices) it could become a bottleneck. jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:38

Re: [Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-21 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Bancal wrote: > > I'd like to get some info to ponder it afterwards. > I'd wish to know what is a let's say "normal" number of jobs per day for an > average master server in your environment regardless of NetBackup version you > run? > > +--

Re: [Veritas-bu] lto4 fc bottleneck

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Wilts
You're mixing up bits and bytes. Your fibre hba is 1 Gb (little b = bit). Your drives are capable of 120MB (big B = byte). So you're trying to put 120MB of data down a roughly 100MB pipe. I'd say that for each LTO-4, you're going to need a dedicated 1Gb HBA or upgrade the HBAs switch to 4Gbps an

Re: [Veritas-bu] lto4 fc bottleneck

2008-03-21 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, gina_fle wrote: > > If I was running only six LTO4 drives that is capable of 120MB on a 1GB fiber > hba, would that be a bottleneck? 120 x 6 = 720MB even though the switch is > 1GB? > > +-- > |This was se

[Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-21 Thread Bancal
I'd like to get some info to ponder it afterwards. I'd wish to know what is a let's say "normal" number of jobs per day for an average master server in your environment regardless of NetBackup version you run? +-- |This was se