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This is something that I am really surprised that Symantec/Veritas has not
picked up on.
There needs to be a way of migrating from one backup platform to another. For
example, when migrating from one NetBackup master server to a new one there's
really no good method for moving your old policie
One wordNDMP. Forget about doing it in a reasonable amount of time using
CIFS.
Also, define "reasonable time"?
--stuart
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tual tapes available to use for backups
6) rerun failed vault jobs to allow for proper image expiration
7) repeat steps 1 through 6 several times
Agghhh the pain!!!
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From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Liddle, St
I think I'm beginning to understand my confusion to some of the earlier
comments and now see from the conversations that are taking place that the way
we are using our VTL's is vastly different from the way that most of the
respondents to this thread are using theirs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, b
That's cool and that's exactly what you get from the
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/available_media script...PLUS the output from
that script tells you about whether the tape is in the library or not which is
what Jonathan wanted to know in the first place. For that you will need to add
the
Clem,
You have made a rather curious comment. You don't have to delete the tape to
get the space returned. (My experience is with the NetApp VTL.) There are
settings on the VTL that you can set to allow for how long you keep a virtual
tape in the "shadow" pool once it has been "cloned" to ph
Yes, but if you want to back up Exchange 2007, then you will want to use
NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 does not have support for Exchange 2007.
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The bpmedialist command will only tell you part of the story. It won't tell
you whether or not the FULL tape is actually in the library or not.
The best way is to run the available media report which is found at:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/available_media.
Not only does the report
Dave wrote the following in response to this thread:
If unix
bperror -backstat -hoursago 24 -U | grep "^ 1" | awk '{print $2'} | sort -u
| while read CLIENT;
do bperror -problems -hoursago 24 -client $CLIENT -columns 200 -U;
done
Dave
You could also use the following:
NONDMP is never multiplexed...only one stream to a tape drive at a time.
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Jonathan
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Multiple
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If you have a policy naming c
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1,100 policies!!
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technic
fixed.
--stuart
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies
OK...I find this useful:
cat bin/jobsac
#!/bin/sh
# use bpdbjobs -all_columns to capture the following:
#jobid, status, policy, schedule, client, path
#
# handle the command line argument
case $# in
0) BACKUPSERVER="`hostname`"
;;
1) echo "$1"
BACKU
Hi,
we are running NB 5.1 MP6 with around 1100 policies and over 1600 clients.
We have been having problems with the scheduler not starting things when
they are supposed to start. The one thing that is very important is to have
the proper settings in the /etc/system file for shared memory. If
Here's what we have heard:
NetBackup 6.5 GA does support Exchange 2007 in the same manner as 5.1 is
currently supporting the older version of Exchange servers - on a basis of
backing up the databases.
When 6.5 MP1 is released, NetBackup will support single mailbox recovery
(new), however,
So, are you trying to back up a filesystem with lots and lots of small
files? If so, remember that NetBackup will try to enumerate all of the
files that you are trying to back up. We had a similar situation where we
were trying to back up a filesystem with 3.5 million files in 50,000
directories.
use a reporting tool like Bocada. It will do that for you. And, if a
backup fails 3 tmes and then succeeds, it's considered successful. (I would
want to know what happened on those 3 failed attempts so that I could take
some corrective action though).
--stuart
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also true that it might be inefficient in the tape use
because of the way the VTL allocates space for the virtual tapeagain, a
small price to pay.
Still doing upwards of 200TB/week approaching 1 Petabyte/month.
--stuart
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NODon't use Vault to duplicate from VTL to physical tape!!!
We tried this, and in NB 5.1 MP6, Vault is a HOG!! We were not able to keep
the drives spinning fast enough using Vault. The best speeds we saw going
to physical tape using vault was maybe 30MB/sec. Usually we got around
10MB/sec o
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4
A few reasons:
A long time ago it became clear that waiting for the
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MP4
Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable
yeahwait for 6.5, that's what we are doing
--stuart
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Greg,
I can tell you that we run the command:
bppllist -allpolicies -U
and put the resulting output into a file which we then put into a revision
control system (we use subversion).
Plus we have a Change Control system where our users request changes to the
backups like adding/removing systems,
g well over 30MB/s tape to tape, usingLTO3
drives with LTO2 carts.
What kind of throughput are you getting "into" the nearstore during
yourbackups?
We're evaluating RFP responses for VTL at the moment...
Paul
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We are currently in the process of testing out Direct Tape Copy on the
NetApp NearStore VTL's.
The results we are seeing is that we are getting better than 50MB/sec with
LTO-3 drives writing to LTO-2 tapes. We can attach up to 3 drives per 2GB
fiber-channel port. We figure we can do about 4TB/da
I think the iostat command for linux is differentBUT...You can look at
the bptm log files on your media server and get information about the
duplication speeds.
look for "successfully wrote" and "successfully read" in the bptm logs to
get write and read speeds for the duplication process.
Yo
Tairone,
I think that you want to use the command bpplclients
NOT bpclient.
The bpclient command is for something
entirely different.
--stuart
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All that needs to be done here is to
ensure that your selection criteria for the vault profile is set to a time that
will go back far enough to include any missed images.
We have this situation occur from time to
time and because I have specified in the vault selection cr
I agree with Phil on this...we group clients by dataset and proximity to the
nearest media server. So, that number is high for things like Exchange
backups where we have over 20 Exchange servers and low for other apps where
we might only have 1 server.
This is different from our old model where w
with VTL and "virtual" drives,
you can create 10 virtual drives and set MPX=1, or create 1 virtual drive with
MPX=10, and get the same overall performancewithout the duplication hassle.
Paul
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be that we just can't pump data out to the drives fast enough to
keep them spinning with a single-stream.
--stuart
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO3
throughput on Vault/Duplication jobs
Agreed. C
ALL,
we have an issue with LTO-3 drive
performance.
Our environment is set up as
follows:
q a single
master server running Solaris
q 4 Linux media
servers
q 4 Windows
media servers
q ADIC i-2000
tape library with 16 LTO-3
True, but that only gives you the speed
that it is reading…..how do you get the write speed?
For us, we are reading from a VTL and
writing to LTO-3 drives in an ADIC i2000 tape library. I want to see what
my write speed is.
I’m getting excellent read
through
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Patrick,
If your catalog image database is growing and you want to decrease
the amount of space it is taking, then you CAN do the Catalog Archiving, but
there are other steps that you might want to take first.
First off, if you have retentions that are really long (
Title: Message
Actually, the story I heard from Symantec/Veritas about the VTL
support under 6.x is that it will allow for automatic expiration of the VTL
images once they have been successfully duplicated to physical tape.
That's similar to the current option in vault for images comin
OKtry this:
A useful tip for expiring images is to
look at the output from
bpimagelist
-l
If you look at: http://support.veritas.com/docs/193085
It will give a full description
of the rather messy outpuf from this
command.
Anyway, I put together an
awk snippet to g
Another method is to use the bpsyncinfo commad which will give you
information about the paths being backed up by your catalog backup. You can
then use that to do du -sk on those paths
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Hi Liddle,
Are you satisfied with this equipment?
Are you using compression enabled? What performance are you
obtaining?
How many TB
Yes, we are. We currently have about 133TB of space using the NetApp
VTL600's.
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Stuart
I will believe what "I" have seen, and the restores for the 2 SAN Media
Servers are absolut
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing
Stuart
Completely disagree - we get the best of both worlds and restores have never
been any real issue for us, even large amount
u can free up
the space on the VTL as quickly as possible.
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by using
the command: bpdbm -ctime).
--stuart
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Stuart W. Liddle
Amgen Corp.
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That's good for backup speeds, but it sucks for restores. Unless all of
your clients have really slow network connections, having a high
multiplexing value is not really a good idea.
You might want to consider dropping the multiplexing down to something like
6.
Our configuration uses VTL's to
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Just turn off VSP.it's a big pain and causes more problems
than it solves.
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SimonSent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:08 PMTo: 'Hindle,
Greg'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Verita
yes.and it works quite well.
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Layne (Contractor)Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:00
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[Veritas-bu] Vault Catalog?
Is it possible to
setup a vault to only d
Title: Message
I would add that, yes, it would be a good idea to keep images on
the VTL for possible restores. However, if you need the space, then you
should remove those images from the VTL as soon as they have been successfully
duped. Our practice is to make two physical tape copie
I don't really agree about the bit about building new policies.
I can use:
bppolicynew -sameas
Much quicker than the GUI, thank you.
As for building policies from scratch, we have a script for doing that and,
again, much quicker than the GUI.
I will agree about getting backup sp
You should also check out this:
see: http://support.veritas.com/docs/193085
Useful information about the layout and such for the bpimagelist -l command
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Bill
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Title: Status 5 for ndmp restore
yeahI've seen this before and found that I cannot do a
re-directed restore of an NDMP backup.
I had to restore to the same location that was backed
up.
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GregSent: Friday
I have set up vault to run
several times per week. Some of the vault runs do not produce any results
(that is, there are no images to vault). However, it will still create a
vault session in the
/usr/openv/netbackup/vault/
directory
This leaves several
sid directories, onl
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