Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Keating
lf Of bob944 > Sent: May 23, 2006 1:28 AM > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 'Darren Dunham' > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit > "[M]ap directly onto physical tape?" With my usual subtlety and > understatement, let me say that

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-23 Thread Dan Pritts
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 03:50:58AM -0400, bob944 wrote: > > link. Even on a WAN many WAN routers use compression to improve > > throughput. > > I never thought of this. Cool. Do you have an example that I can > study? Google for "WAN Acceleration" these appliances typically use many techniqu

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-23 Thread Darren Dunham
> > The idea is if you are using your VTL to produce not just random > > storage, but map directly onto physical tape. If your local > > compression > > is greater than the drive's, then when you go to realize the virtual > > tape onto physical storage, Nebackup may be tracking a single tape > >

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-23 Thread bob944
> > B. Because of that, as I said earlier, no tape software ever made, > > AFAIK, makes such an assumption. > [...] > > Then you are obviously not as old as me :-( Might be--cut my teeth on 200bpi, 7-track and rememeber 3-inch-wide tape. :-) > Way back, ICL had something called FMS (Filestore M

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-23 Thread bob944
> > B. Because of that, as I said earlier, no tape software ever made, > > AFAIK, makes such an assumption. > [...] > > Then you are obviously not as old as me :-( Might be--cut my teeth on 200bpi, 7-track and rememeber 3-inch-wide tape. :-) > Way back, ICL had something called FMS (Filestore M

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-23 Thread Richard.Hall
On Tue, 23 May 2006, bob944 wrote: > > > > There are now VTLs that compress the data going to disk; > > > > they always have > > > > a bit of a gamble as to how well they can mimic the way > > > > the real tape > > > > compresses data; I'm told they just use very conservative > > > > estimates, t

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-22 Thread bob944
> > > There are now VTLs that compress the data going to disk; > > > they always have > > > a bit of a gamble as to how well they can mimic the way > > > the real tape > > > compresses data; I'm told they just use very conservative > > > estimates, to make sure the disk image will fit on the t

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-22 Thread Darren Dunham
> > There are now VTLs that compress the data going to disk; they always > have > > a bit of a gamble as to how well they can mimic the way the real tape > > compresses data; I'm told they just use very conservative > > estimates, to make sure the disk image will fit on the tape. >

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-20 Thread bob944
> I think if you turn on software compression this only applies > to the data "in-flight", i.e. it is compressed by the client but > decompressed by the server, regardless of the type of storage unit. ^^ What makes you say this? > link. Even on a WAN many WAN routers

Re: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-19 Thread william . d . brown
as-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit Is it wrong to use software compression in a policy that uses a disk staging unit for the storage unit? Will this result in slower migration or negative compression during the migration phase to

RE: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-19 Thread Mark.Donaldson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob StumpSent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:42 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit Is it wrong to use software compression in a policy that uses a disk staging unit for the storage unit? Will this result in slo

RE: [Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon
to disk staging unit Is it wrong to use software compression in a policy that uses a disk staging unit for the storage unit? Will this result in slower migration or negative compression during the migration phase to a tape drive that uses hardware compression? This email is for the

[Veritas-bu] compression to disk staging unit

2006-05-19 Thread Bob Stump
Is it wrong to use software compression in a policy that uses a disk staging unit for the storage unit? Will this result in slower migration or negative compression during the migration phase to a tape drive that uses hardware compression?