Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu

2011-03-01 Thread stefanos
No, there is no way to achieve this. You can only use more drives to speed up the process stefanos. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:41 PM To:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu

2011-03-01 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu I believe you can't MPX duplications because of a limitation within the bpduplicate process. It will allow you to keep already MPX'ed images MPX'ed, but you can't MPX a duplication job that isn't MPX'ed already, which is your

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu

2011-03-01 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
5:31 PM To: Patrick Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu I believe you can't MPX duplications because of a limitation within the bpduplicate process. It will allow you to keep already

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu

2011-03-01 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Patrick netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.ukwrote: Is there a way to do the above? If so how? Short answer: no. Longer answer: It's been requested multiple times and is being considered for a future release. There are ways to configure yourself around these

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu (FINAL)

2011-03-01 Thread Patrick
...@ewilts.org] Sent: 01 March 2011 18:27 To: Patrick Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Patrick netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk wrote: Is there a way to do the above? If so how? Short answer

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-05-01 Thread bob944
1208506181 1195233074 1209450948 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:03 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's My main concern

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-05-01 Thread Tharp, Trey
@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Mike Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiplexing mixes streams of data from multiple sources into one stream to the storage device. A de-duplication product on that storage device

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-05-01 Thread Curtis Preston
@ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:12 PM To: Mike Sparkes Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-05-01 Thread Curtis Preston
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:10 AM To: 'Len Boyle'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's I agree with b and c, but there a can be a little misleading as we

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Tharp, Trey
The only downside to not multiplexing is the number of drives you have to create and configure as well as the number of virtual media you have to create as well. Depending on the VTL, media can be created by allocating all the virtual cart space up front of allocating space on demand. So, if you

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Sparkes
Your logic is correct. If your licensing allows many Virtual Tape Drives then create them and run many parallel backup jobs. Even in a virtual environment this will make your restores quicker. Also, if you ever move to de-duplication, the act of multiplexing your backups ruins the ability to

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Mike Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever move to de-duplication, the act of multiplexing your backups ruins the ability to detect duplicate blocks. Your de-dupe ratio will be terrible. I don't follow your logic here. Why would multiplexing affect

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread bob944
We recently purchased a VTL to backup some short retention backups to. The backups will expire on the VTL and will not be duplicated to tape or anywhere else for that matter. We also have capacity licensing so we can create as many virtual tape drives as necessary. I don't believe

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Meidal, Knut
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:36 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's Good reason #1: in my VTL testing experience, making a boatload

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
:* Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:12 PM *To:* Mike Sparkes *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Mike Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever move to de-duplication, the act of multiplexing your backups ruins

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread bob944
smaller tapes. And a backup that requires a dozen tapes because they're only 10GB-sized incurs a significant time penalty from all those media change times. === Speaking only for my NetApp VTLs here, but the 'media change time' as in 'rewind, unload drive, put tape in slot, grab a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Len Boyle
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:03 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's My main concern is that when doing restores off a multiplexed tape, the VTL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Query

2007-05-14 Thread Ueli Schweizer
Assuming the retention level is same for all three jobs NetBackup will multiplex all three jobs to one single tape. Cheers Ueli Schweizer AGITE Software Zurich . West Palm Beach . London Swiss Headquarter: AGITE Software AG . Boesch 43 . CH-6331 Huenenberg . Switzerland Direct: +41 79 204 9190

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing combined with multistreaming

2006-10-17 Thread Marcos DeLima
Hi Brenda, do you have OPEN FILE License on your server? Did u check about SECURITY on the DRIVE E? Be sure to have the user SYSTEM with full access in there. regards Marcos DeLima Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:35:07 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing combined with multistreaming

2006-10-17 Thread Austin Murphy
On 10/17/06, Ashley, Brenda R Ctr 584 CBSS/GBMUAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am having a difficult time trying to combine multiplexing with multistreaming to maximize my performance. Before getting too far into a solution you need to define the problem. What kind of performance

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Liddle, Stuart
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:26 AM To: 'Liddle, Stuart'; 'Mansell, Richard'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Stuart I will believe what I have seen, and the restores for the 2 SAN Media Servers are absolutely well within limits of restoring data

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:58:54PM -0700, Liddle, Stuart wrote: Finebelieve what you wantbut the numbers don't lie. If you ever try any testing of this you will see that restores are significantly faster when you do them from non-multiplexed tapes. There are 2 significant factors

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Keating
'; 'Mansell, Richard'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Stuart Completely disagree - we get the best of both worlds and restores have never been any real issue for us, even large amounts of data across multiple tapes. Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Keating
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liddle, Stuart Sent: July 31, 2006 2:59 AM To: WEAVER, Simon; 'Mansell, Richard'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Simon, Finebelieve what you wantbut the numbers don't

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread WEAVER, Simon
] -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 July 2006 12:33 To: Liddle, Stuart Cc: WEAVER, Simon; 'Mansell, Richard'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:58:54PM -0700, Liddle, Stuart wrote: Fine

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread K Chapman
we used to multiplex until we had to duplicate images... we no longer multiplex now. that would be another reason to not multiplex (this is also a resource issue/time issue for us). if you ever had to demux from tape to tape several hundred gig... yuk"Liddle, Stuart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Darren Dunham
If it's within your required parameters, then it's OK. It's obviously and trivially true that restoring from mulitplexed tapes is slower, because the drive has to read data that's not required to get to the data that is. I don't agree. Yes, the tape has to read more data, but if that new

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-31 Thread Whelan, Patrick
of people on earth - those who understand binary and those who don't. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: 31 July 2006 14:16 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Or at the very least

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-30 Thread WEAVER, Simon
, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2006 19:37 To: WEAVER, Simon; 'Mansell, Richard'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing That's good for backup speeds

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing

2006-07-28 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Richard Yes I use multiplexing a lot NBU 5.1 Master MP2 + 2 SAN Media Servers 4 drives in a robot - using SSO 1 Storage Unit set to multiplex 25 jobs per drive (Master) 2 SAN Storage Units set to use 2 drives, multiplex 8 per drive Seems to work - get a lot of jobs done - around 300 per night

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-09 Thread Yoseph Leleputra
yes that's all. but don't forget if you change one of them should be restart NBU . joeJerry Vochteloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These things will determine if multiple jobs runMultiplexing in the storage unitMultiplexing in the scheduleMax jobs/clients (global) set to more then one (if you are also

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-06 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Make sure the drive/storage unit can accept more than 1 stream simultaneously. Make sure the schedule has media multiplexing enabled and a number higher than 1. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asiye Yigit Sent: Thursday, July

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-06 Thread Asiye Yiğit
: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem Make sure the drive/storage unit can accept more than 1 stream simultaneously. Make sure the schedule has media multiplexing enabled and a number higher than 1. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-06 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Make sure jobs are set to max of 99 - ensure storage unit multiplexing per drive is set to a high value In the SCHEDULE of the policy, ensure multiplexing is set to a high value - not as high as the storage unit if poss ! HTH Ie: Storage multiplex is 12 - schedule policy set to 6 - so 6

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-06 Thread Shane Liebling
A couple things to keep in mind that can trip you up w/ multiplexing (and have done so to me in the past): 1) Configuration - The tape drive needs to be set up to multiplex and, if you really want to get the most bang for the buck, the policy should be set to multistream as well. 2) Media

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing problem

2006-07-06 Thread Jerry Vochteloo
These things will determine if multiple jobs run Multiplexing in the storage unit Multiplexing in the schedule Max jobs/clients (global) set to more then one (if you are also multistreaming) Max jobs this client Max jobs per policy Number of drives in STU Max of concurrent drives used for backup

Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing

2006-06-23 Thread Paul Keating
just the opposite. multiplexing is the practice of writing multiple backup jobs simultaneously to one tape/drive, interleaving segments of each backup on the tape. Multiplexing is beneficial when you have new technology tape drives that write 40+ MB/s natively, and clients that just can't push

Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing

2006-06-23 Thread Hindle, Greg
And where is the settling for multi streaming? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing just the opposite

Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing

2006-06-23 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Message- From: Hindle, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 16:36 To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing And where is the settling for multi streaming? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing

2006-06-23 Thread Paul Keating
@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] multiplexing And where is the settling for multi streaming? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:32 AM To: veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing / Streaming

2005-11-03 Thread Dean
Simon I believe this will happen - Your first job will kick off at 6PM with 3 streams. All these streams will go to one tape drive, because you have the MPX value on the schedule set at 3. The second policy will start at 7PM and generate another 3 streams. All these streams will go to a second

RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing / Streaming

2005-11-02 Thread Moses, Darby
This can be a hairy subject. Why do you want to use this option, before I start. Best Regards, Darby Moses -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:37 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu