Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
sull wrote: >This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of >communities who are using video to socialize, create, inform, entertain, >insult, inspire etcetera. > > Wait...overanalysis of small amounts of social behavior until it looks like peasants are storming the Bastill

[videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Gena
I wanted to respond to some of your concerns. Part of the difficulty is to separate the truth from the mythology about America. Sometimes it is the same thing. I want to try to stay on topic about vlogging but I need to convey this, I'll do the best I can. > 7. Besides showing or viewing the video

[videoblogging] Open source documentary about net neutrality

2006-11-18 Thread Rick Rey
Hey folks, The fight for net neutrality continues. Check out Mike Ambs' edit of "Human Lobotomy" -- an excellent documentary that summarizes the historical parallels between what we're facing now and other corporate take-overs that restricted free speech and communication over the last 100 years

[videoblogging] Re: Videobloggers in Atlanta?

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Savarino
Here is a map of vlogs in Georgia... http://community.vlogmap.org/maps/regional?state=GA Hope you find or create a local community there. -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "[chrisbrogan.com]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi-- > > Are there any videobloggers or a community in Atlant

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread sull
I just finished reading this thread with a sorta confused look on my face for most of it And it fitting that the last message here by Charles Hope jives with how I feel. This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of communities who are using video to socialize, create, inf

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
Aha. A really good article relating to the subject. Posted here for discussion. From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061116/tc_nm/rights_cameraphones_dc > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - One cell phone video shows Los Angeles police > beating a man repeatedly in the face. Another shows a handcuffed, home

Re: [videoblogging] A New Community Vlog on the Scene

2006-11-18 Thread Rick Rey
Looks great Josh! You weren't kidding when you told me 2 weeks at the Vloggies. I'm subscribed. -Rick On 11/18/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > Just Thought I would give you all the heads up on my new project. I have > started a West Michigan focused video blog. The vi

[videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Ferd Eggan
Jay, thanks for zeroing in on this and posting the video. I think it raises some important questions. The following are some examples: 1. Are the "rights' and "freedom" so bragged about in the u.s. just for the "good" and "obedient" people? 2. If a person is using a computer in a library of a pub

[videoblogging] A New Community Vlog on the Scene

2006-11-18 Thread Josh Leo
Hey Gang, Just Thought I would give you all the heads up on my new project. I have started a West Michigan focused video blog. The videos will feature events, businesses, people, places and everything else that has to do with my side of the state. Take a look and let me know what you think! The U

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Charles Hope
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Videoblog Community" should be ALL including YouTubers, MySpacers, people who might > not be aware of DV, RSS, etc > Possible reality: Videoblog Community = This Yahoo Group (The Vloggies jumps right out > at me

[videoblogging] Videobloggers in Atlanta?

2006-11-18 Thread [chrisbrogan.com]
Hi-- Are there any videobloggers or a community in Atlanta? I'm asking because I'm thinking of throwing a Network2 / Video on the Net party there on or around December 6th. Who's out there? Drop me a line: chris at network2.tv --Chris...

Re: [videoblogging] What's Next?

2006-11-18 Thread Mark Smith
We could always try and talk to them. Does anyone speak YouTubish? Mark www.dcinput.com On 11/18/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[videoblogging] Loiez - Possible Answers To Your Questions

2006-11-18 Thread Gena
1. Those of us that can need to continue to teach and educate others about creating a simple video and how to upload it. We need to teach others folks, not overwhelmed them, on a simple way to do this and not give up their rights to fair compensation. This young person and others who had a video c

[videoblogging] Re: Vloggers Video Conference Now

2006-11-18 Thread johnleeke
Don't bother trying to login or register at CoLab, they do not seem to be working, but the basic services there do seem to work without logging in. John

[videoblogging] What's Next?

2006-11-18 Thread andrew michael baron

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread bofoboho
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This weekend at PodCamp West, I'm part of a discussion about Community Imperialism in DIY > Media, because frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap. > > It's been a rough week, seeing everyday people invo

[videoblogging]

2006-11-18 Thread Loiez D.
Hi all, I saw this video with a tazer and an Iranian-american student ;-( My reflexion is : now , what can we do ? which will be the legal continuations of this story ? It will be great if this community could make a free service for democraty following these story and others( Josh Wolf, t

Re: Re: [videoblogging] OurTube

2006-11-18 Thread sull
from rox: Re: Re: [videoblogging] everyone wants you Yes Jay - I've gotten the emails, one referencing the Vloggies. So that is one list apparently being mined. I am very interested in us continuing this discussion, and yes Ted, perhaps a wiki or spinoff makes sense = not everyone is interested

Re: Re: [videoblogging] OurTube

2006-11-18 Thread sull
hey mike. rox was the motivation behind having a focused discussion on some issues i will just link to her post and include it here. I think the "OurTube" discussions, once they get going, will cover a small mix of topics associated with taking more control, as video content creators, of busi

[videoblogging] Re: Proposal

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Moon
Hey, I just took a look. Columbus would be about an 8 hour drive for me from Ontario, Canada... very feasible. Drive there, pitch a tent... Yup, works for me. I'd like to also support the a Ohio location for vloggercon07. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Erin

Re: [videoblogging] Zune vs iPod Shuffle

2006-11-18 Thread Lan Bui
That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on news!!! Is this the way the news shows are these days? I have not watched news in over 2 years. They actually seemed real in that segment. -Lan www.LanBui.com On Nov 18, 2006, at 2:45 AM, Lisa Harper wrote: Apologi

[videoblogging] Re: Proposal

2006-11-18 Thread Erin Nealey
There are some folks in the Carolinas (though not a lot) but I know for me, the possibility of going to Ohio for Vloggercon '07 is much more likely than the west coast! I like the idea too :) Erin Nealey Mom's Brag Vlog nealey.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Say It To Katie - SayItToKatie.com

2006-11-18 Thread Steve Garfield
Thanks Jan! On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jan / The Faux Press wrote: > Just uploaded a piece to blip. > > http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=sayittokatie&topic=48360 > > Thanks for the opportunity to speak out, Steve. > > Jan -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Say It To Katie - SayItToKatie.com

2006-11-18 Thread Jan / The Faux Press
Just uploaded a piece to blip. http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=sayittokatie&topic=48360 Thanks for the opportunity to speak out, Steve. Jan On 11/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How's this pet project of yours catching on Steve? > > Are their videos other than on Blip?

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Proposal

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
I think you're better off keeping the conversation here and just titling your posts "vloggercon midwest". I would absolutely love to attend if it's in Columbus. I know Columbus well. The problem is there's not enough of a critical mass in any one city in the midwest. Well... maybe Chicago. We'v

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Say It To Katie - SayItToKatie.com

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
How's this pet project of yours catching on Steve? Are their videos other than on Blip? Youtube? Technoratti posts? Dabble? Delicious or anywhere? If so... may I offer a place on mefeedia to aggregate them all into one collection? It'd be my honor to give you a hand. That's what mefeedia is he

Re: [videoblogging] Federal appeal court refuses rehearing in Josh Wolf case (fwd)

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
I think ironicly this is a sign of Josh's success... the only reason he's still in jail because he scares someone... Who's this punk who thinks he's got rights? Better teach him a lesson before others start to stand up for their rights too. ...of course the longer they keep him in jail, the more

Fwd: [videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Jan / The Faux Press
I think my emails aren't getting through to the list, and haven't probably been showing up for weeks. Inadvertently subscribed to the Google Groups version of this list and...well...that's not workin'. Jan -- Forwarded message -- From: Jan / The Faux Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dat

Re: [videoblogging] Zune vs iPod Shuffle

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
I'm just sitting back and enjoying the Zune backlash. Happy happy joy joy, the zune is a big piece of sh*t and it's failure sure will mean a lot to the world. I hope it succeeds just enough in rattling the iPod, but I doubt it would, because it has NO major features that challenge the iPod. Well.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
Wow, that I just read like 8 responses from Eric and one from Steve. Steve's concept, I don't subscribe to vlogs, I subscribe to people is exactly the same thing I'm saying. Perhaps it even put it in a better way for general understanding. Steve says, "I subscribe to people, not vlogs" Peter say

[videoblogging] test post

2006-11-18 Thread Jan / The Faux Press
Sorry - my postings been goofy lately. XO Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Steve Garfield
And you end up on my point, "but it's a about Tony, baby." Videoblogging is people. I subscribe to people. Many video networks have categories for all types of shows, but leave out the 'people' category. Look at http://network2.tv/ * All Shows * Arts * Business * Cart

Re: [videoblogging] Zune vs iPod Shuffle

2006-11-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
LOL :-) That part at the end is hilarious. See ya On 11/18/06, Lisa Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apologies if this has been around... but it's really extremely funny > at the end. Hard to believe this was CNN... > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3O1y8-hDK8E > > -- > Lisa Harper > lisah

[videoblogging] Zune vs iPod Shuffle

2006-11-18 Thread Lisa Harper
Apologies if this has been around... but it's really extremely funny at the end. Hard to believe this was CNN... http://youtube.com/watch?v=3O1y8-hDK8E -- Lisa Harper lisaharper.org

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
Mike, did you watch the YouTube video I posted? If so, did you hear what they were saying? See what they were doing? ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Heh, one more though about community equalling walled garden. > > I just wanted to clarify. > > First ther

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
How about adding some non-tech concepts there, such as, how and why to make media for portable devices. The Verizon (icky)/Google deal might technically misunderstand certain things, but the flip side is the consumer going 'WOW videos on mah phonez! wt' Do they give a rat's butt about st

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
Or 'theirtube' if you follow the reasoning of '[YouTube] chose to be inoperable with us' Gotta disagree with Mike's choice of words there and use that as a prime example... who died and made us gods of what works or what doesn't? If we're the gods then I want a cape dammit. :-) ER --- In

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
As an aside, Mike, the other reason I'm finding the community imperialism angle so fascinating, is because I'm timing how slowly a very very VERY important chain of events regarding intellectual property, DMCA-friendly and DRM-wanting folks (and it's DIY people, not the Big Boys) is barely wo

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Scoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either way, I just will cover it on my blog and you'll all find it anyway, > right? Heheh. Yeah all my mySpace homies read Scobleizer, ohhh wait, THE blogosphere. xD See the accidental pattern (yeah I got it was i

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is youtube still perpetuates the idea that it's all just a > big popularity contest. This promotes the idea that it is all about > viral video, funny videos, and other 'entertainment' hiding the true > id

[videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Eric Rice
Well that's one question I hope to find answers to at Podcamp--- cuz this isn't a videoblogging issue, it's blogging, podcasting, SL, the whole nine yards. There are many communities, agreed, it's when we think ours is the One True God (stealing from Elizabethan times)--that's what I'm looking

Re: [videoblogging] The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
On 11/18/06, Ted Tagami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike when you said: > > "...the true identity of this beast... (is)... more akin to email, IM, the > telephone... it's just personal communication that just so happens to > be public. in fact architecturally and functionally speaking it's > c

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
On 11/17/06, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the term that might be more accurately reflective is 'cultural > imperialism', but > community was substituted in light of the thinking that we view ourselves as > a community > more than a culture in most cases? I also adore how inflammat

Re: Re: [videoblogging] OurTube

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
I'm still not fully understanding the concept behind this ourtube group, can we discuss it some? Is it just an attempt to take the gootube deal as an opportunity to draw back some of the youtube users back to the open vlogosphere as they become disenfranchised with youtube? I've already subscribe

Re: [videoblogging] The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
Heh, one more though about community equalling walled garden. I just wanted to clarify. First there are non-walled garden communities. Communities whom NOONE owns, and whom exist outside of some wenservice. What we're talking about is the independant blogosphere. Within it are thousands of mal

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
On 11/18/06, T wrote: > Damn Mike you are on target tonight. That is a chilling possiblity painted > in black and white: > > " The threat clearly stated is this... in this future are we all just > surviellance tools of big brother? > > Certainly our right to retain property of our own media is goin

Re: [videoblogging] Re: under control

2006-11-18 Thread Adam Quirk
Good news, Dreamhost had backups of all our databases, even the one I deleted (because Judy Garland told me to), and the support guy just copied them into my directory. My brain is fried from trying to straighten out the mess I made with thepan.org, so I'm no longer able to rationally troubleshoot

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
Is it just me or are their some urls missing in the email from scoble? BTW, We have a complete guide to the 2006 vloggies winners on mefeedia also. http://mefeedia.com/lists/46/ It includes direct links to the vlogs and their feeds for your convenience. There was no officially published list th

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Example of how video could change things

2006-11-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello Marty, On 11/17/06, Marty Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > My question is... > > How in the heck was this guy supposed to stand up after being tazered > for as long as he was? > > When I have seen tazers used they have not been held to the person for > any length of time

Re: [videoblogging] The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Ted Tagami
Mike when you said: "...the true identity of this beast... (is)... more akin to email, IM, the telephone... it's just personal communication that just so happens to be public. in fact architecturally and functionally speaking it's closest relative is this very yahoo group, but media rich." I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/17/06, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And for all my love of video, Ive always been to shy to say any of > > these sorts of things in video, too self-concious to even have a > > personal text-blog, so I spew the words he

Re: [videoblogging] The other videoblogging community

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Meiser
comments below On 11/17/06, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And then I saw this. A 10 minute video that damn near had me in tears. > > Do you consider them videobloggers? I do. > > And since they aren't aware of THIS community, I will completely step > outside any jurisdiction > > an