Cheers, fascinating stuff. Id say love of the group and fighting
external enemies definately create the longest conversations here.

Anyway I just read another of his articles, about Fame vs Fortune and
micropayments:

http://shirky.com/writings/fame_vs_fortune.html

Makes a lot of sense, unfortunately. Donations are cool if you can get
them but you know I dont like the advertising thing. I suppose there
is an outside chance that if the credibility of bloggers etc who get
revenue from sponsorship or advertising, is damaged in the future by
specific incidents, that users might be prepared to pay, specifically
for content that they have to feel is credible to be of any point
watching?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I thought this was very interesting...
> 
> Clay Shirky's Writings About the Internet
> Economics & Culture, Media & Community, Open Source
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy
> A speech at ETech, April, 2003
> 
> http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
> 
> This talk is in three parts. The best explanation I have found for  
> the kinds of things that happen when groups of humans interact is  
> psychological research that predates the Internet, so the first part  
> is going to be about W.R. Bion's research, which I will talk about in  
> a moment, research that I believe explains how and why a group is its  
> own worst enemy.
> 
> The second part is: Why now? What's going on now that makes this  
> worth thinking about? I think we're seeing a revolution in social  
> software in the current environment that's really interesting.
> 
> And third, I want to identify some things, about half a dozen things,  
> in fact, that I think are core to any software that supports larger,  
> long-lived groups.
> 
> Found on http://del.icio.us/chuckbartowski via http:// 
> www.chuckssecret.com/
>


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