Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Rupert
This is the only point I was going to make. You're all doing a fine job of debating the other politics. But make no mistake: your videos are melting the ice caps. A McKinsey study this year estimated that data centers will be bigger polluters than airlines by 2020. See:

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Jay dedman
In terms of the points at http://stopthecap.com/talking-points/ sorry, this is how most of the rest of the world has been operating from the beginning. some of the suggested rates and penalties are crazy, but I would suspect (given the United State's faith in the free market) that it will

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Jay dedman
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the only point I was going to make. You're all doing a fine job of debating the other politics. But make no mistake: your videos are melting the ice caps. A McKinsey study this year estimated that data centers will be

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Adrian Miles
On 10/11/2008, at 1:36 AM, Jay dedman wrote: Limiting the size of my video is NOT like polluting less with a gasoline car. It may be nice to keep videos small so anyone around the world can watch it, but this is NOT a proper scientific comparison. no it's not, and like all analogies it

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Adrian Miles
careful, them be unamerican views there ;-) On 11/11/2008, at 1:10 AM, Jay dedman wrote: agreed. we have a real problem in the country where loud mouths preach and praise the Free Market, but what we really get is subsidized corporatism. Comcast, TimeWarner get huge subsidies and access

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Actually, they are pretty american views to me, they just don't remind me that they are in the newspapers:) On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: careful, them be unamerican views there ;-) On 11/11/2008, at 1:10 AM, Jay dedman wrote: agreed. we

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-10 Thread Adrian Miles
indeed, and after January I'd hope they'd be even more like American views :-) On 11/11/2008, at 12:09 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: Actually, they are pretty american views to me, they just don't remind me that they are in the newspapers:) cheers Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-09 Thread Jay dedman
I don't understand why there is an attitude where bandwidth is treated as infinite and not a finite resource. It is a finite resource. Data and digital duplication of our material is trivial, but transferring that to other places is not. For example, even in Australia the majority of our

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-09 Thread Jay dedman
Think of this. Comcast is an internet provider AND a cable TV provider. Timewarner is all of these AND a content creator (HBO, CNN). They are worried that more and more of us are canceling our cable TV because we can watch TV (and other better stuff) on the web with our unlimited data

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-08 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
Ironically, though the PERIOD expressed strong hidebounded certainty, the trailing ... seemed to show doubt and hesitation. Just being silly. ;) Ron, have you seen the internet flick Zeitgeist? You would thoroughly enjoy it. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Ron

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-08 Thread Ron Watson
I have seen Zeitgeist. I did enjoy it. I liked the myth stuff more than the current events, but I liked it nonetheless. I tend to over use the triple period thing... what is that called again? ;-) Certainly not hesitation, just an incomplete thought. I've noticed it cropping up more and

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-06 Thread Adrian Miles
Not sure I have tthis right but if it is a monthly cap then this is the norm here in Australia and always has been. Has been one of the reasons why I argue very strongly for proper compression and also other aesthetic requirements in videoblogging. I get 8GB a month, but have the advantage

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-06 Thread Ron Watson
I'd totally agree with you adrian, IF, and that's a serious if, the same multimedia companies (lets not kind ourselves that they are simply bandwidth providers) were not ramping up their own multimedia streams that make ours look silly. I've no doubt that the bandwidth constraints will have

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-06 Thread Adrian Miles
but aren't they also paying commercial and appropriate rates for the bandwidth they need? cheaper than our retail rates, but companies don't pay $n a month for all the bandwidth they want? (Not disagreeing but not sure how a company that pays for all their bandwidth is comparable?) On

[videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-04 Thread Heath
I just did another post about this from another communications company but now another big dog in the US is going to start limiting bandwidthAT T...I am telling you all, this is going to stiffle most video on the web, at some of these limits watching one movie over Netflix will put you

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-04 Thread milam.mattew
It won't work. These guys want to make money, they can't make money if people don't use their service. I don't do that much downloading on the net, so I'm not affected. I do however watch alot of movies on Netflix Instant with my Dad since we recently cut the cable. Your right, I should be

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-04 Thread Jay dedman
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just did another post about this from another communications company but now another big dog in the US is going to start limiting bandwidthAT T...I am telling you all, this is going to stiffle most video on the web, at some

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Yeah...the idea that there is competition at all in broadband is kinda silly. The barriers to entry are high and the market is best modeled as an oligopoly. Don't expect meaningful competitive levers. Expect cartel behavior. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com im not sure its the death of

Re: [videoblogging] The Death of the internet as we know it....

2008-11-04 Thread Jay dedman
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:36 PM, J. Rhett Aultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah...the idea that there is competition at all in broadband is kinda silly. The barriers to entry are high and the market is best modeled as an oligopoly. Don't expect meaningful competitive levers. Expect cartel