Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-31 Thread Yakov
On Mar 29, 8:40 pm, Antony Scriven adscri...@gmail.com wrote: You've never needed more than eight letters? --Antony For what ? -- Yakov -- You received this message from the vim_use maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Yakov
On Mar 28, 6:28 pm, Benjamin R. Haskell v...@benizi.com wrote: Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'.   I don't think short names of plugins come from 8.3, there is different reason. See below. Months from now, there's no way I'd remember 'motpat' comes

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Joan Miquel Torres Rigo
2010/3/28 Benjamin R. Haskell v...@benizi.com Are there any systems in common, current use for which this causes problems? (Why would people be using Vim in DOS emulators?) Why would people be using Windows on servers? But there is. And there is some privative DOS applications with no

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Yakov wrote: On Mar 28, 6:28 pm, Benjamin R. Haskell v...@benizi.com wrote: Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'.   I don't think short names of plugins come from 8.3, there is different reason. See below. The help text itself

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 28/03/10 21:30, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: [...] Even in the standard runtime files, 298 of 1117 '.vim' files have names that don't fit into 8.3. (( find ~/hg/vim/runtime -name '?*.vim' | wc -l vs. find

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Joan Miquel Torres Rigo wrote: 2010/3/28 Benjamin R. Haskell: Are there any systems in common, current use for which this causes problems? (Why would people be using Vim in DOS emulators?) Why would people be using Windows on servers? But there is.

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Yakov
On Mar 29, 3:51 pm, Benjamin R. Haskell v...@benizi.com wrote: (I have 'motpat'. What does 'motpat' do?) Are you talking about *file* motpat.vim ? If you are talking about the file, then doing head motpat.vim will show you all information you need, including description, author name,

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Yakov wrote: On Mar 29, 3:51 pm, Benjamin R. Haskell v...@benizi.com wrote: (I have 'motpat'. What does 'motpat' do?) Are you talking about *file* motpat.vim ? If you are talking about the file, then doing head motpat.vim will show you all information you

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 29/03/10 15:51, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: [...] Out of curiosity, is there something in the build scripts that works around the issue? Or is it handled at runtime? Or do 8-character-limit systems just miss out on some functionality? I think they miss out on some functionality; or else,

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread LuKreme
On 29-Mar-2010, at 07:51, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Joan Miquel Torres Rigo wrote: 2010/3/28 Benjamin R. Haskell: Are there any systems in common, current use for which this causes problems? (Why would people be using Vim in DOS emulators?) Why would people be

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, LuKreme wrote: On 29-Mar-2010, at 07:51, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: Windows isn't the point, anyway. Post-3.1 Windows versions don't have an 8-character limit. Er... Windows 95, 98, and ME sorta still had that limit (file names were 8.3, but the system could

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 29/03/10 16:44, LuKreme wrote: On 29-Mar-2010, at 07:51, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Joan Miquel Torres Rigo wrote: 2010/3/28 Benjamin R. Haskell: Are there any systems in common, current use for which this causes problems? (Why would people be using Vim in DOS

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Yakov
On Mar 29, 5:46 pm, Tony Mechelynck antoine.mechely...@gmail.com wrote: Even on later Windows systems, 8.3 names still exist because they are Are we going to rename vim to something like visualeditorcompatiblewithvi now ? I think the argument confuses two different things, (a) 8.3 limit of APIs

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-29 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 29/03/10 20:30, Yakov wrote: On Mar 29, 5:46 pm, Tony Mechelynckantoine.mechely...@gmail.com wrote: Even on later Windows systems, 8.3 names still exist because they are Are we going to rename vim to something like visualeditorcompatiblewithvi now ? I think the argument confuses two

No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-28 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'. Months from now, there's no way I'd remember 'motpat' comes from create MOTion mappings defined by a PATtern. Can't we all agree that the 8-character limit is absurd at this point? Are there systems that still have

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-28 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 28/03/10 18:28, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'. Months from now, there's no way I'd remember 'motpat' comes from create MOTion mappings defined by a PATtern. Can't we all agree that the 8-character limit is absurd at this

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-28 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 28/03/10 18:28, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'. Months from now, there's no way I'd remember 'motpat' comes from create MOTion mappings defined by a PATtern. Can't

Re: No more 8-character limit?

2010-03-28 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 28/03/10 21:30, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 28/03/10 18:28, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: Andy Wokula just uploaded what seems like a useful plugin called 'motpat'. Months from now, there's no way I'd remember 'motpat' comes from create MOTion