vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-17 Thread alex
I think that the power of shell programming (particularly with the use of the perl language) is by far superior of the power of modern GUI applications. In particular, I would like to compare programming with vim + shell scripting + perl with programming with IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans. And o

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-17 Thread Mr. Shawn H. Corey
If you use Perl, you don't need any shell. -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn The key to success is being too stupid to realize you can fail. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. For more information, v

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread Marc Weber
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 06:39:44AM -0800, alex wrote: > I think that the power of shell programming (particularly with the use > of the perl language) is by far superior of the power of modern GUI > applications. ... This heavily depends on a) the language you want to program in b) your shell (per

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread Anton Sharonov
> Eg if you only want to use subversion and you do a lot of heavy > refactorings in Java I'd recommend Eclipse for that all. Why? > Most of the work as already been done and if you want to rename > a method you can use Eclipse Wizards for that which will be > superior to vim search repalce methods

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread Marc Weber
> About "pain": it is the same as with learning vim: things which > you do most of the time and very often, you just learn how to do > efficiently with vim + eclim; things which are used not so often The trouble is if you learn vim + eclim only you won't even know that those "missing" features do

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread Anton Sharonov
> The trouble is if you learn vim + eclim only you won't even > know that Those "missing" features do exist.. :-( No, you shouldn't learn vim + eclim only. One must obviously learn "pure eclipse" as well - but this is anyway happens "automatically", during your day-to-day usage. > For example ca

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread fritzophrenic
On Dec 17, 8:39 am, alex wrote: > Perhaps one problem in vim is the source code browsing: the standard > tags facilities aren't too much advanced and useful. > > ... > > - what other unix tools are needed (for listing call trees for > debugging, ecc) ? I've never used it myself...but I unders

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-18 Thread Nazri Ramliy
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:39 PM, alex wrote: > - Unix + vim are better than GUI-IDEs or not in your eyes ? Absolutely, if you know what you're doing and you're a touch typist - can type without looking at the keyboard, ever. Mind you that's quite a big `if' there. The shell gives you a means t

Re: vim + unix shell + perl better than moder GUI IDEs like Eclipse or NetBeans ?

2008-12-19 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 17. Dez 2008, 06:39:44 -0800 schrieb alex: > I think that the power of shell programming (particularly with the use > of the perl language) is by far superior of the power of modern GUI > applications. You got it. Once learned it you cannot return. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf