why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Deepak adhikari
I am trying to use this editor, searched stackoverflow.com (didn't ask though) went to vim.org but very complex operations are explained and found difficult to grasp. just trying to know some basic commands like how to start, exit, save/writeout , delete some specific lines. Remove BOM form the ut

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Karthick Gururaj
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Deepak adhikari wrote: > I am trying to use this editor, searched stackoverflow.com (didn't ask > though) went to vim.org but very complex operations are explained and found > difficult to grasp. > > just trying to know some basic commands like how to start, exit,

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Weber
First try vimtutor (run it within your shell) Its a command opening a special file containing some initial training such as how to delete, insert, edit text and the like Then next have a look at additional minimal information. The one I consider most important is here: https://github.com/Marc

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Gerald Klein
HI Vim is a powerful tool and anytime you use a powerful tool that has a great deal of control you have a learning curve. I would suggest using one of the many Cheat Sheets offered on the web such as below. Some are simple to use and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimcheat.html http://www.world

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:47:30 +0200, Deepak adhikari said: > I am trying to use this editor, searched stackoverflow.com (didn't ask > though) went to vim.org but very complex operations are explained and > found difficult to grasp. > > just trying to know some basic commands like how to start, exit

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Ben Fritz
On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:04:51 AM UTC-5, MarcWeber wrote: > First try > > > > vimtutor > > > > (run it within your shell) > > > > Its a command opening a special file containing some initial training > > such as how to delete, insert, edit text and the like > > I will secon

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Weber
> After you've mastered the basics, browsing > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Getting_started is probably a good idea, > too. added it to my file so that I never ever forgett about it :) > > > https://github.com/MarcWeber/vim-addon-manager/blob/master/autoload/sample_vimrc_for_new_users.vim

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-26 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:47:30 +0200, Deepak adhikari said: >> >>> I am trying to use this editor, searched stackoverflow.com (didn't ask >>> though) went to vim.org but very complex operations are explained and >>> found difficult to grasp. >

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-27 Thread David Ohlemacher
Vim is easy to use, but not easy to learn. The trick for me, beyond the basics which I had known for eons, was to create my own cheat sheets. I use tomboy notes. I think it much less useful to download a cheat sheet. Making your own will start you on your way to remembering. I keep several

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-09-30 Thread Marcin Szamotulski
On 11:33 Thu 27 Sep , David Ohlemacher wrote: > Vim is easy to use, but not easy to learn. > > The trick for me, beyond the basics which I had known for eons, was to > create my own cheat sheets. I use tomboy notes. I think it much less > useful to download a cheat sheet. Making your own

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread analogsix
Deepak, Firstly, Vi/VIM/GVim is not an easy editor to use! That's the good news. There's nothing wrong with you or your potential in using VIM. But you must be patient and persevering. Secondly, there's no secret to VIM but practice and more practice. As a number of people have said, muscle me

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread Danny Gratzer
I started around 6 months ago with Vim. I would say the first thing you must master is the movement keys. Seriously until moving around a file feels comfortable you're going to be absolutely miserable. Check out : help usr_03. Start small, movement, substitution, searches, and quickly you'll find y

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Personally, I would start with the VIM tutor in the vim program. That's how I got started. Then as I started finding myself repeating actions I would look on google to see how to do it in vim (e.g...how to delete duplicate lines) and then learn the keystrokes. It's just a matter of repetition...onc

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread stosss
Hi Deepak, The book that was mentioned, Learning the vi and Vim Editors Seventh Edition is a good book for the most basic stuff but quickly becomes useless for any thing beyond the most basic stuff. I don't mean anything way beyond the basics just anything just past basics. I don't have any actual

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread Vlad Irnov
On 9/26/12, Deepak adhikari wrote: > ... > basically what I exactly wanted is>> > > remove BOM from utf-8 encoded file, remove 2nd line of the text file which > was imported from windows machine. > ... The BOM is handled by option 'bomb' (:help bomb). To remove BOM :set nobomb :w

Re: why is it so difficult to start using vim (may be just for me).

2012-10-23 Thread Phil Dobbin
Deepak adhikari wrote: > I am trying to use this editor, searched stackoverflow.com > (didn't ask though) went to vim.org > but very complex operations are explained and found > difficult to grasp. > > just trying to know some basic commands like how to