Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Mike Carpenter
Hi there, I'm new to the group, and in need of some advice. I dusted off my mac plus last night and switched it on. Initially the screen came on and it started its diagnostic routine , then the screen blacked out. When I restarted it the screen would no longer come on and it makes a strange star

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Chris Tofu
Visually inspect all capacitors for starters. Marred, charred, corrosion, explosions. Possibly a bad solder joint, crack. My first guess would be the analog board. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.c

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Hardware Mack
With it on you can give it a hard wrap on the side of left side of the case, if there is a loose solder joint in the A/B, the the video might come right back. On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Chris Tofu wrote: > > Visually inspect all capacitors for starters. Marred, charred, corrosion, > ex

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Mike Carpenter
I've done the tap trick before - in a darkened room to see where the sparks jump on a dry joint and soldered it up. The video has been a bit iffy the last few times I've fired it up - I've had to give it a tap. I've inspected both boards and can find no evidence of bad joints or exploding compon

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Chris Tofu
. you cant always see a bad solder connections. but I once repaired a power supply by touching most every joint on the bottom of the board. -- On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 2:57 PM PDT Mike Carpenter wrote: >I've done the tap trick before - in a darkened room to see where

First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Oddly, this came up on one of my my lawyer mailing lists (yes, I'm subscribed to two of those [three if you count the one for my own software]) When did the signatures in the case stop? My memory wants to say that it was the SE that was the first without signatures in the case, but . . . -- Dr.

RE: First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread Wesley Furr
I forget whether it was the IIci or IIcx, but when I pulled it apart, I was surprised to notice signatures on the case... Going by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Macintosh_models those models were introduced after the SE. Wesley _ From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto

Re: First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread J.S. Garrison
The SE still had signatures, and the Easter Egg with the photo of the then-development team burned into the ROM. Jeff On Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:30 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Oddly, this came up on one of my my lawyer mailing lists (yes, I'm subscribed to two of those [three if you coun

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread J.S. Garrison
My Mac Plus, in 1999, was my dial-up email machine using Eudora 3.x with a modified system floppy for connectivity and the email program in an external floppy drive. I re-soldered every joint on the power board just to be certain my Plus kept going. Jeff On Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:57 PM

Re: First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread Cagliostro, Ernie
What I remember was that the mold broke somewhere during SE production and the new molds didn't have the signatures. So there are a number of SE's that have signatures, but later model SE's did not. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:30 PM, "Dr. Hawkins" mailto:doch...@gmail.com>> wrot

Re: First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread Scott Baret
Not all SEs have the signatures. The latest models were produced without them in the mold. As I recall, the last models to have them are the early run SE FDHDs (later models reading SuperDrive don't seem to have them). All Pluses have signatures, as do all earlier Macs. I believe the IIcx and II

Re: First machine without signatures

2013-10-20 Thread Marek Drvota
You're right- was playing with my IIci and signatures are there - very nice M On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Wesley Furr wrote: > I forget whether it was the IIci or IIcx, but when I pulled it apart, I was > surprised to notice signatures on the case... Going by > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T

Re: Mac Plus won't start up

2013-10-20 Thread Mike Carpenter
Could I tell if any of the caps are bad from a visual inspection or do I need to get a tester? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.low