Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-27 Thread 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs
So glad to hear everything is working! You have the patience of a saint and perseverance to boot! Cheers, Keith  On Monday, 26 November 2018, 21:18:11 GMT, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: The external scsi is working and the machine is operational again. Thanks for all the help and

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-26 Thread dlewis1791
The external scsi is working and the machine is operational again. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-26 Thread dlewis1791
External SCSI is working. The video and rest of the system are working again. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-25 Thread dlewis1791
Update: I installed the video card and the machine boots with a working display now. The keyboard and sound work. I will try connecting an external SCSI drive next. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-16 Thread dlewis1791
Okay, similar my experiences building other computers. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-16 Thread Christian Wacker
They're just (marginally) more expensive LEGO really. Plugs in one way, just make sure the computer is powered down and you've grounded yourself before playing with it. On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:49 AM wrote: > My “new” video card arrived. Any precautions or tricks to installing? > > -- > -- >

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-16 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 16 Nov, 2018, at 11:49 am, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > My “new” video card arrived. Any precautions or tricks to installing? No more than for your average PCI card. - Jonathan Morton -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-16 Thread dlewis1791
My “new” video card arrived. Any precautions or tricks to installing? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-13 Thread James Kelly
Welcome to Google! Hi thanks for join us! Reg Google -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-12 Thread Chris Hanson
On Nov 12, 2018, at 11:45 AM, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > Found a Mac II high resolution card on Ebay, without onboard video, I could > not see any driver install. No NuBus video card requires a driver; it should have everything the operating system needs at boot in ROM. A driver may be

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-12 Thread Chris Hanson
On Nov 12, 2018, at 11:14 AM, 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs wrote: > > Yes. Installing it should disable the onboard graphics, routing graphics > through the NuBus card. Not quite; not having a monitor plugged in to the port is what disables onboard video. Just adding a NuBus video card

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread dlewis1791
Can the NuBua card be installed if the onboard video is out? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread dlewis1791
I just heard a loud pop after shut down. Sounded like a cap failing on the main board again. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread Bolling Holt
I want to be a part of this group, but I don't want messages for this same thing everyday for weeks. Okay. I will unsubscribe then. But best of luck to the no display on monitor. On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 10:59 PM Jonathan Morton > On 12 Nov, 2018, at 6:58 am, Bolling Holt wrote: > > > > Why am I

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 12 Nov, 2018, at 6:58 am, Bolling Holt wrote: > > Why am I getting messages for this for weeks now? Almost everyday! Because you're subscribed to the mailing list on which the discussion is being held. Unsubscription instructions are attached to the foot of each one. - Jonathan Morton

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread Bolling Holt
Why am I getting messages for this for weeks now? Almost everyday! On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Tried the VGA adapter with a Sony LCD with a 67HZ refresh rate and don’t > see any signal. > > -- > -- > - > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread Jerri Kohl
If the Sony LCD supports 640x480 @ 66.67Hz, and the VGA adapter had the sense pins configured properly for that resolution, and the VGA adapter was plugged in prior to turning on the IIci, then there's almost definitely something wrong with your video subsystem. I would recommend a NuBus graphics

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-11 Thread dlewis1791
Tried the VGA adapter with a Sony LCD with a 67HZ refresh rate and don’t see any signal. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-07 Thread dlewis1791
Thanks for posting this list. I see several SDM series displays that work. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-06 Thread dlewis1791
The Sony monitor I have is a SDM-X93 from 2004, if that helps. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-06 Thread dlewis1791
I have the 13” Apple Color Monitor, with Sony Trinitron CRT. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-06 Thread Jeff Walther
I didn't reread the whole thread, but I checked the first few posts. What kind of Apple monitor are you using? The Apple Basic Color Monitor will not work with the IIci. It is contemporary with it, but was a cheap .39" pitch rebadged Goldstar (IIRC) monitor and didn't support the signals on

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-06 Thread Christian Wacker
http://ps-2.kev009.com/sog/ This list is a little dated but a pretty comprehensive list of Sync On Green compatible CRT and LCD displays. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:09 AM Clark Martin wrote: > The problem is that the early Macs put out the sync ONLY on the green > video line. There were some

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Clark Martin
The problem is that the early Macs put out the sync ONLY on the green video line. There were some adapters that extracted the sync and put it out on the discrete sync lines but those would be quite rare now I expect. Clark Martin A designated driver on the information Super Highway > On Nov

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
Okay, I ordered an an adapter with the dip switches which, according to the comments will work LCD vga monitors like an NEC Multisync. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
I didn’t think of that, there is a version of this adapter with dip switches if would allow making changes to the sync line. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Nov, 2018, at 10:27 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can’t find the Griffin adapter although cables online has a HD15 to DB15 > adapter. So, all is needed is to switched the lines around? No signal > conversion? Yes, the electronics inside the monitor are basically the same anyway.

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
Can’t find the Griffin adapter although cables online has a HD15 to DB15 adapter. So, all is needed is to switched the lines around? No signal conversion? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Jerri Kohl
There are many companies that make them. I know that Griffin makes ones for modern Macs. You need one that is DB-15 to VGA (HD-15). You don't need a fancy one with manual sense pin configuring, as you only need 640x480. On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 2:03 PM wrote: > Are you referring to a Griffin Mac

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Nov, 2018, at 9:03 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > Are you referring to a Griffin Mac to VGA adapter? That's one option, yes. There are others out there. Most of them just connect the signals through to the monitor, and have dip-switches to tell the Mac what kind of monitor to

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
Are you referring to a Griffin Mac to VGA adapter? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread theonetruestickman
The VGA LCD is worth a shot - mac to VGA adapters are fairly cheap if you haven't got one already. There might also be someone near you that would be willing to help test if you are comfortable posting what state or county you're in. On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM wrote: > I have small LCD

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
I have small LCD VGA display I use for my Linux server... -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Hardware Mack
try poping all the ram out, and installing just 4 matched smmms in RAM BANK A, also take a tooth brush and some 91% IPA alcohol and scrub the ram slots of bank a as well. i have seen flux residue cause issues many times. if there is any issue with ram in bank A you will get NO video. On Mon, Nov

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Nov, 2018, at 7:06 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > I don’t have another Mac available, although I could get another Apple > display from eBay and try that. If you have a VGA monitor or something with a composite-video input, it should be possible to jury-rig something with wires to

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread dlewis1791
I don’t have another Mac available, although I could get another Apple display from eBay and try that. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-11-05 Thread David Bourne
Hi I’m wondering if the problem lies with the monitor. Can you connect to another mac and see if there is any action. I had a similar problem, you’d get is a monitor power supply starting up. but if there is an issue with the horizontal sweep circuit (the part that usually goes wrong) then

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-31 Thread dlewis1791
I will scrutinize the mainboard around the video circuitry and look for damage or soldier bridges. The board was cleaned before the recapping service sent the board back. To test the video I will look for another monitor or a vga adapter. -- -- - You received this message because you are

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 30 Oct, 2018, at 10:59 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > From the photo I took, the bank nearest the hard drive bracket. I can’t see > the board markings. That appears to be Bank A, from squinting at board photos online - which is the correct one for internal video to work. Time to

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread dlewis1791
>From the photo I took, the bank nearest the hard drive bracket. I can’t see >the board markings. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 30 Oct, 2018, at 10:31 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > The SIMMS are in one bank, although the system booted fine in this > configuration. Okay, but WHICH bank? A or B? - Jonathan Morton -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread dlewis1791
The SIMMS are in one bank, although the system booted fine in this configuration. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread Jeff Walther
On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 1:35:01 PM UTC-5, dlewi...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m rebuilding a Mac IIci, starting with a recapped mainboard. The boots > with a normal chime and the 13” > RBG monitor powers up, although the display remains blank. The PRAM > battery is new as

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread dlewis1791
Good suggestions all. Prior to sending the board in for recapping, the video worked perfectly with no artifacts. I will have to scrutinize the board around the video section to look solder joint bridging or contamination. As far as testing the monitor, what could I plug into it? Derek --

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread Jerri Kohl
Great list Keith! I second Keith's suggestion of cleaning boards after recapping. This always needs to be done since you can't always see the electrolyte residue. This ends up being a hidden problem fairly often. Best, Jerri On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:28 AM 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs <

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread Hardware Mack
with the Mac IIci you NEED to make sure RAM is installed in Bank A... if you have ram in bank B, you will get no video. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:35 PM wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m rebuilding a Mac IIci, starting with a recapped mainboard. The boots > with a normal chime and the 13” > RBG monitor

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-30 Thread 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs
Hi D, At the risk of sounding patronising (not intended, honest) have you eliminated all the other possibilities? - Was the Iici working before it was recapped? - If yes, were there any particular symptoms such as odd images on screen? Checkerboard? vertical lines? - Have you checked there are

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 29 Oct, 2018, at 11:05 pm, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > Would there a chime at boot if the onboard video was fried? There are several reasons why the video might not work, and not all of them are detectable by software. The chime mainly means we can eliminate faulty memory or

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread dlewis1791
Would there a chime at boot if the onboard video was fried? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread Matt Patoray
Try removing the PRAM battery and resetting the PRAM. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:54 PM wrote: > The board is clean and there is no corrosion on the battery. > > -- > -- > - > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread dlewis1791
The board is clean and there is no corrosion on the battery. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

Re: Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread rajahpatel via Vintage Macs
Hi Any green battery corrosion or leaky cap residue ? Rgb monitor should have a test mode , most crts do- pull the service manual Kind Regards Raj Sent from my wireless device > On 29 Oct 2018, at 18:35, dlewis1...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m rebuilding a Mac IIci, starting with a

Mac IIci with blank monitor

2018-10-29 Thread dlewis1791
Hello, I’m rebuilding a Mac IIci, starting with a recapped mainboard. The boots with a normal chime and the 13” RBG monitor powers up, although the display remains blank. The PRAM battery is new as well. I have read through some posts on similar problems and I’m looking for suggestions on