Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- James S Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can run 7.6 on an 68000, although you can't > install it on one. And explain exactly how you force it into 24bit mode and run in 4megs RAM? = "I'm sorry, but you can't list fish as 'durable goods' in your GDP statement." "What if we freeze

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> It's fine if you are running System 7.5.5 too. In fact, I found 7.5.5 > to be a little faster in some ways. This is on a IIci. Such as? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ti

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:58:24AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: > On 17 Dec 2002 Deven Gallo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >That's very impressive. I only say this because my network uses 100 MBps > >and I do a lot of file transfer between machines, so 10 MBps speeds would be > >extremely p

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:25:24AM +, Mark Benson wrote: > If your talking about the Daystar Upgrades the 030 was called > 'PowerCache 030' not Turbo 030. And for running System 7.1, there is > nothing finer than a 50MHz 030, especially if you have an SE/30! I'm It's fine if you are runnin

Re: Apple Talk/ Local Talk Transcievers

2002-12-17 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 07:03:59PM -0800, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Why won't someone port netatalk to Windows? Would > defnately make Mac<>PC networking much easier! :) Porting from a good OS to a bad one is never easy or fun... :) However, I wonder if something like the Cygnus setup for Windows

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Holder
At 12:45 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Is it freeware now? > >-- Epicenter Nah, but there's a still-functional preview release. Says it'll work up until 2003, when presumably a new release will be out. 2.82-Preview is what I have. Scott Holder -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread James S Jones
You can run 7.6 on an 68000, although you can't install it on one. On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 09:33 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: >> DAVE 2.5 readme sez: >> >> System Requirements >> DAVE requires the following hardware and software: >> * Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 6

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
Is it freeware now? -- Epicenter On 18 Dec 2002 at 0:31, Scott Holder wrote: > So go get the new one ;) After some initially bad experiences with iCab, I > decided to give it another go and see how it went. So far, it's been much > better. Browsing on my Duo 280c and Quadra 840AV is almost ple

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Holder
At 06:33 AM 12/18/2002 +0100, you wrote: > >DAVE 2.5 readme sez: > > > >System Requirements > >DAVE requires the following hardware and software: > >* Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or higher > >processor. > >* Mac OS 7.6 or later versions, including 8.X and 9.0. > >This must

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>DAVE 2.5 readme sez: > >System Requirements >DAVE requires the following hardware and software: >* Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or higher >processor. >* Mac OS 7.6 or later versions, including 8.X and 9.0. This must be a really impressive program, allowing one to run Mac

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Holder
At 11:32 PM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >What would you suggest I use instead? I'd like Javascript functionality, >and be >relatively quick. Netscape's rather sluggish on this machine. iCab was great, >until it expired. :o > >-- Epicenter So go get the new one ;) After some initially bad experie

DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread ELN/rlf9
DAVE 2.5 readme sez: System Requirements DAVE requires the following hardware and software: € Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or higher processor. € Mac OS 7.6 or later versions, including 8.X and 9.0. € A minimum of 8 megabytes of RAM. € Apple's MacTCP 2.0.6 or Open Transpor

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:38 -0500 on 17/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > >I meant something that will turn off the messages > without making tons of web > >pages > > Use a browser that doesn't suck. Tell web "masters" to quit using Javascript for every link and but

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
What would you suggest I use instead? I'd like Javascript functionality, and be relatively quick. Netscape's rather sluggish on this machine. iCab was great, until it expired. :o -- Epicenter On 18 Dec 2002 at 2:51, Marten van de Kraats wrote: > On 17 Dec 2002 Deven Gallo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
You are correct. However, I do transfer very large files, and I noticed a tremendous speedup going to 100 MBps. I would never want to switch back to 10 MBps. :) -- Epicenter On 18 Dec 2002 at 2:58, Marten van de Kraats wrote: > > >That's very impressive. I only say this because my network us

Re: 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
Not sure, but it probably does the same on an LC.. it was listed in a snippet of info about Turbo 040 overclocking in general, no particular machines were mentioned. -- Epicenter On 18 Dec 2002 at 0:26, Mark Benson wrote: > I presume that's something to do with it messing up the timing on the

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
Not entirely sure. It's got 4 identical-looking chips near eachother, in a square arrangement. Those might be DSP's. You'd definitely be beating my system in storage with a 9 GB HDD. Mine's only got an internal 500 MB, and an external 530 MB, plus a 4x CD-ROM Drive. -- Epicenter On 17 Dec 200

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On 17 Dec 2002 Deven Gallo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >That's very impressive. I only say this because my network uses 100 MBps >and I do a lot of file transfer between machines, so 10 MBps speeds would be >extremely prohibitive. You really think so? In my experience the speed difference between

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On 17 Dec 2002 Deven Gallo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >I still don't know why Netscape 4 is complaining about so many Java pages. Let me see... A 5 year old browser on a 12 year old Mac... Is that really a surprise? I don't think so. Marten --

Re: DAVE Re: Apple Talk/ Local Talk Transcievers

2002-12-17 Thread Phil Beesley
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:53 PM, Gamba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or: > > Being responsible for the above distribution of Dave, I briefly suffered a mild heart attack. No worries, however, because Dave will only work in Dem

Re: STATIC CITY [was: beige stock]

2002-12-17 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:50:47AM -0800, Jim McGee wrote: > If it's feasible, add some extra humidity to the environment and then > utilize standard antistatic procedures. I have noticed a lot of peanuts is coming that is off-white in color, sometimes even green, and it doesn't seem to generate s

Re: STATIC CITY

2002-12-17 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:05:06AM -0800, flawed jai wrote: > to gregg eshelman re biofoam: > > No, I had not heard about the substance before you described it. That > shows you about how easy it would be to come by some. > > I think all in all, it's a lot easier to buy popping corn and a hot ai

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 18:59 Europe/London, Mark Benson wrote: > If pickle comes back at you on-list you have my full guarantee I'll > take to him with both hands. He's been a bit cranky lately and has > racked up a strike already. > > My advice is that you do not react on-list as this will

Re: 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 23:16 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The Turbo 040, as you probably know, has one oscillator-- a full-size > metal- > can one. The cards use a 2x multiplier to derive the 68040's speed. > So, the > 68040-40 model uses a 20 MHz oscillator. I desoldered th

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 23:04 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd like to see it try to beat my IIci with Turbo 040 @ 48 MHz, 48 MB > RAM, > and SuperMac Thun/24. ;) How many DSPs on that Thunder card? :) Your CPU beats me hands down. I have 32MB RAM so I'm not far off there.

Re: 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
The Turbo 040, as you probably know, has one oscillator-- a full-size metal- can one. The cards use a 2x multiplier to derive the 68040's speed. So, the 68040-40 model uses a 20 MHz oscillator. I desoldered this, and replaced it with a 24 MHz oscillator. 24 x 2x Multiplier = 48 MHz. To keep it co

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
> > If pickle comes back at you on-list you have my full guarantee I'll > take to him with both hands. He's been a bit cranky lately and has > racked up a strike already. Thanks, I really appreciate it. I'm sorry if I bothered some people before, it certainly was not my intent. > > My advic

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
That's very impressive. I only say this because my network uses 100 MBps and I do a lot of file transfer between machines, so 10 MBps speeds would be extremely prohibitive. -- Epicenter On 18 Dec 2002 at 2:28, Darren wrote: > > I'll give you this much, there are many ISA network cards > The

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
I'd like to see it try to beat my IIci with Turbo 040 @ 48 MHz, 48 MB RAM, and SuperMac Thun/24. ;) -- Epicenter On 17 Dec 2002 at 19:03, Mark Benson wrote: >> Ha, well my 33Mhz 040 and Radius Thunder IV crammed into a IIci does a >> good job too - on a screen 1280x1024@24-bit :). What is more

Re: 040 in a SE/30

2002-12-17 Thread Gamba
>I'm still trying to work out how to adapt the IIsi adapter to fit a Turbo >040 in my SE/30 but it's not going to well :( >http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30daystar.html> Gamba -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog El

Re: DAVE Re: Apple Talk/ Local Talk Transcievers

2002-12-17 Thread Gamba
--- Ian Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I emailed the Thursby customer support people on the >> 68k DAVE issue a while >> back and they said they did not have a version of >> DAVE older than the latest >> release (4.0) anymore, which only runs on 8.6 and >> up. Maybe on an auction site, flea

Re: 040 in a SE/30

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 22:04 Europe/London, mart wrote: > How many pins do these PDS-slots have? Here in Amsterdam, a load of > VME-connectors are available for something close to nothing. Looked > like > the right number of pins, but please tell me the number of pins you > need. I think

Re: 040 in a SE/30

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 06:44 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > You need an SE/30 PowerCache adaptor. That was a > straight up, inline conversion to the IIc cache slot. > DayStar even threw in two bits of black tape to put > on the edges to insulate it from the SE/30 frame. Damn. I kne

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 23:06 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As best I remember, the card sent to me had the connector for the > cache daughterboard, plus > if I remember correctly, the option for the "128K Secondary Cache" was > dimmed in > QuadControl / Power Central. OK. In

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 21:44 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ah, if not the Turbo 030, what did Daystar call it? Pardon my mistake, > it's been a while since > I've looked into those cards. I got a Turbo 040 and have been happy > with it, the cache issue > aside. > > On another n

Re: gray scale adapter

2002-12-17 Thread mart
>>Let the Mac analog board run the yoke. >>Replace the circuit board that goes on the back of the CRT with a custom >>one >that plugs in to the SE30 PDS color board output. >>What would keep this from working? >>How can we make this work? >>johnsn > >Where are you going to get an SE30 PDS color boa

Re: 040 in a SE/30

2002-12-17 Thread mart
>On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 15:47 Europe/London, Snook, John R wrote: > >> What's your problem? I've done a couple different stiles with success. >> Can I help? > >The IIsi adapter is a right-angle adapter. The problem being it drops >the Turbo 040 slap bang in thew middle of where the hard disk i

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Jim McGee
I'm in total agreement with John. Gentlemen, take it elsewhere mudbro - Original Message - From: "Snook, John R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Beige-Stock > I don't know what this is about and I don't care. > I would like to say pickle, take it offline! > -- Vintage Macs is

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Donn Haven Lathrop
>>I don't think the rest of the board wants to hear about it either.<< Nope--we just wish you'd go away, and stay away. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Frederick Silliman
Thank you.. Snook, John R wrote: >I don't know what this is about and I don't care. >I would like to say pickle, take it offline! > > > -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerS

Re: 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040

2002-12-17 Thread the pickle
At 07:38 -0800 on 17/12/02, Snook, John R wrote: >< my 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040-accelerated >IIci runs circles around my 50 MHz PowerCache '030 accelerated IIci. It did >the same when >running at a stock 40 MHz, too. :) > >-- Epicenter > >Please tell us how you overclocked it. Following the

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Snook, John R
>On another note, I frankly don't care about whatever happened back then, I >can't even clearly >remember what happened. Please drop it. And also please do not call me >BenjiOak, Epicenter http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Can

48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040

2002-12-17 Thread Snook, John R
< my 48 MHz (overclocked) Turbo 040-accelerated IIci runs circles around my 50 MHz PowerCache '030 accelerated IIci. It did the same when running at a stock 40 MHz, too. :) -- Epicenter Please tell us how you overclocked it. johnsn -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and.

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Darren
the pickle wrote: >>I only have a hub which if I understand correctly is limited by the >>slowest connection, as it hooks up to 10mbps macs and cable modem a >>10/100 is a waste again. Does a router over come this or do I need a switch for that? >> >> > >Depends a lot on the router, although

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread the pickle
At 02:28 +1100 on 18/12/02, Darren wrote: >I only have a hub which if I understand correctly is limited by the >slowest connection, as it hooks up to 10mbps macs and cable modem a >10/100 is a waste again. Does a router over come this or do I need a >switch for that? Depends a lot on the router,

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Darren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >ISA is fine for an old network, but for a 10 MBps ethernet network to run at its >proper speed, you'll want to get PCI. > > I'll give you this much, there are many ISA network cards The 3comm card does its full 10mbps which is the max the cable modem can achieve at

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread the pickle
At 09:38 -0500 on 17/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I meant something that will turn off the messages without making tons of web >pages Use a browser that doesn't suck. -- the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread the pickle
At 09:38 -0500 on 17/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >ISA is fine for an old network, but for a 10 MBps ethernet network to run at >its proper Wow. When did this turn into the Windoze list? -- the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread the pickle
At 09:38 -0500 on 17/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >For anyone who doesn't know what happened before, it was basically this. I >posted some >messages that were incorrect, or not "informative enough" to some people. When >someone >else stood up for me, we both got flamed, then banned from the lis

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Ian Johnson
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:38 am Subject: Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac > ISA is fine for an old network, but for a 10 MBps ethernet network > to run at its proper speed, > you'll want to get PCI. > > -- Epicenter > > >

Re: Java, 68k

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
I meant something that will turn off the messages without making tons of web pages unusable. -- Epicenter On 17 Dec 2002 at 1:09, the pickle wrote: > At 22:16 -0500 on 21/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Is there a way to turn off those irritating messages about script errors? > > Yeah.

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
ISA is fine for an old network, but for a 10 MBps ethernet network to run at its proper speed, you'll want to get PCI. -- Epicenter On 17 Dec 2002 at 18:19, Darren wrote: > I've made a 66mhz Win95 box running 2 isa nics and 2x40mb hdd's running > of 8mb of ram, hardly recommend but usable. >

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread epicenter
I really don't care. I'm not going to listen to a thing you say about whatever the hell happened before. I don't think the rest of the board wants to hear about it either. I'm not going to be listening-- so stop repeating yourself. You're doing nothing but proving your own stubbornness and ob

Re: STATIC CITY

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- flawed jai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to gregg eshelman re biofoam: > > No, I had not heard about the substance before you > described it. That > shows you about how easy it would be to come by > some. I plugged biofoam packing into Yahoo, got 13 hits. You may have seen it without knowing

Re: STATIC CITY

2002-12-17 Thread flawed jai
to gregg eshelman re biofoam: No, I had not heard about the substance before you described it. That shows you about how easy it would be to come by some. I think all in all, it's a lot easier to buy popping corn and a hot air popper, and make some organic excelsior to use in place of styro peanut

Re: Beige-Stock

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ah, if not the Turbo 030, what did Daystar call it? > Pardon my mistake, it's been a while since > I've looked into those cards. I got a Turbo 040 and > have been happy with it, the cache issue > aside. The 030 PowerCache because it had the faster 030 (the Power)

Re: IIsi getting AirPort through iMac

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If the system is never used at ALL, it will probably > not crash too much, but in > Win98, Microsoft admits it becomes unstable after > about 24 hours (or was it > 48 ..) 49.7 days, on certain hardware, the list of which MS won't tell anyone and you have to pester

DAVE Re: Apple Talk/ Local Talk Transcievers

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Ian Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I emailed the Thursby customer support people on the > 68k DAVE issue a while > back and they said they did not have a version of > DAVE older than the latest > release (4.0) anymore, which only runs on 8.6 and > up. Maybe on an auction site, flea marke

Re: DIVX?

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I didn't expect it would exist, but then again, I > didn't think there was an Mp3 player for Macs > either until I read about it a while back. Worth > asking anyway. Lots of them for PowerMacs. MP3 on 68k is mostly just an "It _can_ do it!" excercise. ;) = "I'