Re: DAVE on 68K Macs

2002-12-21 Thread the pickle
At 07:46 -0500 on 21/12/02, Ian Johnson wrote: According to previous messages on this thread, DAVE requires Open Transport, which eliminates the need for MacTCP and the Network control panel. It's It's OK, Ian. Deven is a bit thick. He likes to hear himself post, so to speak, just like when he

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread Gamba
ELN/rlf9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a copy of 2.1 which lists 7.5 as the minimum with an 020. No time for testing though. Ian Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is it available (reply off-list if you must)? I would like to try it; my 7.1 has pretty much everything 7.5 has. I found

Re: DAVE on 68K Macs

2002-12-21 Thread Scott Holder
At 07:46 AM 12/21/2002 -0500, you wrote: What is A/ROSE for? No Mac OS installer I have encountered has ever given a description of if besides Provides support for certain NuBus cards. snip There is/was a certain Token Ring nubus card that requred some special Real-Time handling by the OS. I

Re2: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread Gamba
I wrote: I found 2.1 and added the link And have since added the key. If they're going to abandon 68K Macs we'll un-abandon them! Everybody together, RIGHT! Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Re2: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread Charles Estabrooks
on 12/21/02 11:47 AM, Gamba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: I found 2.1 and added the link And have since added the key. If they're going to abandon 68K Macs we'll un-abandon them! Everybody together, RIGHT! Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 RIGHT! -- Vintage Macs is

Re: DAVE on 68K Macs

2002-12-21 Thread the pickle
At 11:33 -0500 on 21/12/02, Scott Holder wrote: At 07:46 AM 12/21/2002 -0500, you wrote: What is A/ROSE for? No Mac OS installer I have encountered has ever given a description of if besides Provides support for certain NuBus cards. snip There is/was a certain Token Ring nubus card that requred

Re2: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread the pickle
At 08:47 -0800 on 21/12/02, Gamba wrote: I wrote: I found 2.1 and added the link And have since added the key. If they're going to abandon 68K Macs we'll un-abandon them! Everybody together, RIGHT! RIGHT! -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW for TCP/IP you need to install a program called Open Transport 1.1.2. First 1.1.1, then 1.1.2. = I'm sorry, but you can't list fish as 'durable goods' in your GDP statement. What if we freeze them?

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, my network card is supported by A/ROSE, which simplifies things quite a bit. A/ROSE (Apple Realtime Operating System Extention) is for network cards that have a 68000 CPU on them. AFAIK, that's only Token Ring ones. No 68000 CPU on the NIC, you don't need

Re: DAVE on 68K Macs

2002-12-21 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Dec 21, 2002, at 17:02 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: Real-Time handling by the OS. I seem to recall it had a complete 68000 Yep. Mac Token Ring cards often had 68HC000s on them. Not sure why all the computational power was required but whatever. Not that anyone really

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-20 Thread Ian Johnson
On 12/20/02 11:09 AM, ELN/rlf9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a copy of 2.1 which lists 7.5 as the minimum with an 020. No time for testing though. Where is it available (reply off-list if you must)? I would like to try it; my 7.1 has pretty much everything 7.5 has. -- Vintage Macs is

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Once I put an oscillator back in my IIsi, I can install 7.1 on it, then I can give it a try. That is, assuming 7.1 will support Ethernet and this network card (it's an Asante NuBUS.) I had trouble getting any sort of TCP/IP set up with 7.1 before. Of course 7.1 supports ethernet, as do system

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-20 Thread epicenter
I have an odd setup, but it works great. I have a 10/100 switch, which is uplinked to the internet, and then downlinked from that switch is a 10 MBps hub, into which my IIci's are hooked up. One of my IIci's does work on the network (and internet) under 7.5.3, but I haven't yet found a way to

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-20 Thread the pickle
At 20:14 -0500 on 20/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an odd setup, but it works great. I have a 10/100 switch, which is uplinked to the internet, and then downlinked from that switch is a 10 MBps hub, into which my IIci's are hooked up. One of my IIci's does work on the network (and

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-20 Thread the pickle
At 01:04 -0500 on 21/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, pickle. I appreciate the abuse. Any time, BenjiOak. You obviously didn't get the hint that you aren't wanted here by a very vocal portion of the list. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-18 Thread Ian Johnson
- Original Message - From: Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 0:36 am Subject: Re: DAVE on 68K macs At 06:33 AM 12/18/2002 +0100, you wrote: DAVE 2.5 readme sez: System Requirements DAVE requires the following hardware and software: * Any Mac

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-18 Thread the pickle
At 06:33 +0100 on 18/12/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: DAVE 2.5 readme sez: System Requirements DAVE requires the following hardware and software: * Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or higher processor. * Mac OS 7.6 or later versions, including 8.X and 9.0. This must be a

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Holder
At 06:33 AM 12/18/2002 +0100, you wrote: DAVE 2.5 readme sez: System Requirements DAVE requires the following hardware and software: * Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or higher processor. * Mac OS 7.6 or later versions, including 8.X and 9.0. This must be a really

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread James S Jones
You can run 7.6 on an 68000, although you can't install it on one. On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 09:33 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: DAVE 2.5 readme sez: System Requirements DAVE requires the following hardware and software: * Any Mac OS-compatible computers with a Motorola 68020 or

Re: DAVE on 68K macs

2002-12-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can run 7.6 on an 68000, although you can't install it on one. And explain exactly how you force it into 24bit mode and run in 4megs RAM? = I'm sorry, but you can't list fish as 'durable goods' in your GDP statement. What if we freeze them?