Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-24 Thread Duane Steele
> Thanks Richard for such a quick response. Inspired by your responses during > this thread, I've picked up my device and I'm using it now with the speech > turned off. The only difference is that because I'm from the old school of > braille reading and writing, I use the older Grade 2 braille

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-24 Thread Richard Turner
I use UEB contracted for both output and input. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Duane Steele wrote:  Richard, thanks for the i

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-24 Thread Duane Steele
Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my BrailleEdge in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII braille, I'm less likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to edit

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-24 Thread Richard Turner
I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running iOS 13.1.3. I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email. There was no lag to speak of. I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or character where I needed to make a correction. When I

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread Duane Steele
> Hello iPhone friends, > > You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays > yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since > discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when > editing a document is to make sure when

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread Johnna Simmons
Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status Johnna Simmons > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: > >  >> >> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues >> since my phone decid

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Tom Lange
> > Hi > Most of the text editing that I do on the phone is in the native mail app or > on Facebook app. Cursor routing is an issue, VO gets sluggish and can > crash, and losing focus is also a problem. It’s driving me nuts. I haven’t > seen Braille getting this flakey in years. > > On Oct

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
I would say the biggest problem I see is not being able to route the cursor using my braille display. Now, I always have to use VO to make sure that it is on the correct line; then I can route the cursor. But it's a royal pain. On 10/22/19, Richard Turner wrote: > tom, > When you say long text ed

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Richard Turner
tom, When you say long text editing, what app are you in? Are you talking text messages, or other apps? Knowing that would help trying to ,duplicate the issue. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life i

RE: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread khevener
Tom, I have not taken the plunge to ios 13 because I understand there are many problems with braille devices. So, am trying to hold off till those bugs are fixed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Richard Turner
The hotkey to go to the status bar is broken for all keyboards, QWERTY and Braille. Write Apple Accessibility. The more they get reports, the sooner it will get fixed. Fingers Crossed. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for S

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Duane Steele
> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues > since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the > space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status > bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left.

Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-22 Thread Aleeha Dudley
Hi Tom, I am having trouble as well. I can tell you that this trouble has been the same since betas started, and nothing has seemed to change. I’m really frustrated about it, and have reported it several times. Aleeha > On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I’m using a Brai