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2017-01-20 Thread Wayne Scott
I prefer using the braille display to the rotor. No wrist strain. But, yes, when I use the speech, it can ge tiresome. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that I wanted views upon, so here it

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2017-01-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
e- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I don't find the angle gestures in Talk Back to be impossible to use. I don't recal

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2017-01-20 Thread Marie
: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? The fly in the ointment with the talkback approach is that they have very few gestures, and many of those they do have are the right angle gestures which cause a lot of people a lot of problems.

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2017-01-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
impossible to use. JMT Marie -Original Message- From: Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via the rotor could be made shorter. I t

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2017-01-19 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Richard, I like that one very much! It certainly takes some strain out and I'm going to practice, keep practising, and use it! :-) Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :) On 20 Jan 2017, at 12:26 am, Richard Turner wrote: I think having two rotors would be worse for most. To save on wrist strain

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2017-01-19 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
gt; Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? > > I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor > which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the

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2017-01-19 Thread Mary Otten
ed. In the past the gesture to >>> invoke these menus was all but impossible to use. >>> JMT >>> Marie >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM >>> To: viphone@goo

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2017-01-19 Thread regina alvarado
Mary, I agree with you that more up and down flicks should be used. In fact I would like to see a whole new design of the rotor as those with wrist problems or finger weakness cannot use the rotor at all. I have a friend who cannot make even the beginning of the movement for the rotor, and it m

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2017-01-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ten Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language rotor, pick the language sett

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2017-01-19 Thread Mary Otten
think the first one. > > SubMenus would be fine. > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subj

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2017-01-19 Thread Mary Otten
nd was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus > was all but impossible to use. > JMT > Marie > > > -Original Message- From: Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU A

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2017-01-19 Thread Cris Ali
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is doing a better

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2017-01-19 Thread Marie
: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to select your

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2017-01-19 Thread Richard Turner
, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. We now have the actions rotor and the language

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2017-01-19 Thread Michael Feir
Remember that you can remove and re-order options on the rotor. I have the majority of options added to my rotor. However, I've customised the order of options so that I don't have to turn the rotor a great deal to get to what I need in most circumstances. I've also removed options which I simply w

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2017-01-19 Thread Mary Otten
I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. We now have the actions rotor and the language rotor. Those are not actually rotors. They are menus off of the rotor, and you get to the items

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2017-01-19 Thread Richard Turner
I think having two rotors would be worse for most. To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly upward, and the

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2017-01-19 Thread Mary Otten
I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting

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2017-01-19 Thread Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
be. Thanks -Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 6:00 PM To: VI Phone Users Subject: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? HI all, I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that

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2017-01-19 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
HI all, I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that I wanted views upon, so here it is! As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items offered on my rotor an