[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-05-02 Thread Tiwei Bie
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 07:14:39PM +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 07:34:06PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:12:32PM +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote: > > > This patch introduces VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_HOST_NOTIFIER. > > > With this feature negotiated, vhost-

RE: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
ongnu.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; Daly, Dan > ; Tan, Jianfeng ; Wang, Zhihong > ; Wang, Xiao W > Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering > external host notifiers > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 04:24:29PM +, Liang, Cunming wrote: > > &g

[virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
> -Original Message- > From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 1:01 AM > To: Liang, Cunming > Cc: Paolo Bonzini ; Bie, Tiwei ; > jasow...@redhat.com; alex.william...@redhat.com; stefa...@redhat.com; > qemu-de...@nongnu.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 07:35:57PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 19:27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > That CONFIG_SMP here is clearly wrong but I don't really know what > > to set it to. Also, we probably should switch virtio_wmb to dma_XX > > barriers. > > > > That's actually e

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 19:27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > That CONFIG_SMP here is clearly wrong but I don't really know what > to set it to. Also, we probably should switch virtio_wmb to dma_XX > barriers. > > That's actually easy. Will try to do. Should it be dma_wmb() before updating the indices, and

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 06:59:39PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 18:52, Liang, Cunming wrote: > >>> Oh you are right. > >>> > >>> So it's only needed for non-intel platforms or when packets are > >>> in WC memory then. And I don't know whether dpdk ever puts > >>> packets in WC memor

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 04:52:20PM +, Liang, Cunming wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paolo Bonzini [mailto:pbonz...@redhat.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 PM > > To: Michael S. Tsirkin ; Liang, Cunming > > > > Cc: Bie, Tiwei ; jasow...@redhat.com; > > alex.w

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 18:52, Liang, Cunming wrote: >>> Oh you are right. >>> >>> So it's only needed for non-intel platforms or when packets are >>> in WC memory then. And I don't know whether dpdk ever puts >>> packets in WC memory. >>> >>> I guess we'll cross this bridge when we get to it. >> Non-TSO a

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
Tiwei > > ; > > jasow...@redhat.com; alex.william...@redhat.com; stefa...@redhat.com; > > qemu-de...@nongnu.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; Daly, Dan > > ; Tan, Jianfeng ; Wang, Zhihong > > ; Wang, Xiao W > > Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user:

[virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
> -Original Message- > From: Paolo Bonzini [mailto:pbonz...@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 PM > To: Michael S. Tsirkin ; Liang, Cunming > > Cc: Bie, Tiwei ; jasow...@redhat.com; > alex.william...@redhat.com; stefa...@redhat.com; qemu-de...@nongnu.org; > virtio-dev@lis

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 06:07:07PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 17:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:51:51PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> On 19/04/2018 17:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > - if we make it 1 when weak barriers are needed, the device a

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:52:23PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 17:42, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > >> A compiler barrier is enough on strongly-ordered memory platform. > >> As it doesn't re-order store, PCI device won't see a stale index > >> value. But a weakly-ordered memory needs

[virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
> -Original Message- > From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:43 PM > To: Liang, Cunming > Cc: Bie, Tiwei ; jasow...@redhat.com; > alex.william...@redhat.com; pbonz...@redhat.com; stefa...@redhat.com; > qemu-de...@nongnu.org; virtio-dev@list

RE: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
.@nongnu.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; Daly, Dan > ; Tan, Jianfeng ; Wang, Zhihong > ; Wang, Xiao W > Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering > external host notifiers > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 03:02:40PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 17:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:51:51PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> On 19/04/2018 17:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: - if we make it 1 when weak barriers are needed, the device also needs to nack feature negotiation (not allow setting the FEATU

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:51:51PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 17:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > >> - if we make it 1 when weak barriers are needed, the device also needs > >> to nack feature negotiation (not allow setting the FEATURES_OK) if the > >> bit is not set by the driver.

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 17:42, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> A compiler barrier is enough on strongly-ordered memory platform. >> As it doesn't re-order store, PCI device won't see a stale index >> value. But a weakly-ordered memory needs sfence. > > Oh you are right. > > So it's only needed for non-intel p

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 17:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> - if we make it 1 when weak barriers are needed, the device also needs >> to nack feature negotiation (not allow setting the FEATURES_OK) if the >> bit is not set by the driver. >> However, that is not enough. Live >> migration assumes that it is

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:43:42PM +, Liang, Cunming wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bie, Tiwei > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 7:15 PM > > To: Michael S. Tsirkin > > Cc: jasow...@redhat.com; alex.william...@redhat.com; pbonz...@redhat.com; > > stefa...@redhat.com; qem

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 03:02:40PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 19/04/2018 14:43, Liang, Cunming wrote: > >> 2. Memory barriers. Right now after updating the avail idx, > >> virtio does smp_wmb() and then the MMIO write. Normal hardware > >> drivers do wmb() which is an sfence. Can a PCI devic

Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 19/04/2018 14:43, Liang, Cunming wrote: >> 2. Memory barriers. Right now after updating the avail idx, >> virtio does smp_wmb() and then the MMIO write. Normal hardware >> drivers do wmb() which is an sfence. Can a PCI device read bypass >> index write and see a stale index value? > > A compile

[virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Liang, Cunming
> -Original Message- > From: Bie, Tiwei > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 7:15 PM > To: Michael S. Tsirkin > Cc: jasow...@redhat.com; alex.william...@redhat.com; pbonz...@redhat.com; > stefa...@redhat.com; qemu-de...@nongnu.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis- > open.org; Liang, Cunming ; Daly, D

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-19 Thread Tiwei Bie
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 07:34:06PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:12:32PM +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote: > > This patch introduces VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_HOST_NOTIFIER. > > With this feature negotiated, vhost-user backend can register > > memory region based host notifiers. A

[virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] vhost-user: support registering external host notifiers

2018-04-18 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:12:32PM +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote: > This patch introduces VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_HOST_NOTIFIER. > With this feature negotiated, vhost-user backend can register > memory region based host notifiers. And it will allow the guest > driver in the VM to notify the hardware acceler