Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2014-03-31 Thread Petr Tesarik
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:26:10 -0800 H. Peter Anvin h...@zytor.com wrote: Bullshit. This should be a separate domain. Thanks for top-posting, hpa... Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 22/11/12 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote: The other thing that should be considered here is

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-26 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 22/11/12 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote: The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system that contains a hypervisor. The reason for kdump is that on bare metal there are no other options, but in a

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-26 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 22/11/2012 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote: The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system that contains a hypervisor. The reason for kdump is that on bare metal there are no other options, but in a

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-26 Thread Bouchard Louis
Hi, Le 23/11/2012 02:56, Andrew Cooper a écrit : For within-guest kexec/kdump functionality, I agree that it is barking mad. However, we do see cloud operators interested in the idea so VM administrators can look after their crashes themselves. It's not barking mad when your dayjob is to

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Jan Beulich
On 22.11.12 at 18:37, H. Peter Anvin h...@zytor.com wrote: I actually talked to Ian Jackson at LCE, and mentioned among other things the bogosity of requiring a PUD page for three-level paging in Linux -- a bogosity which has spread from Xen into native. It's a page wasted for no good

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Daniel Kiper
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter Anvin wrote: I still don't really get why it can't be isolated from dom0, which would make more sense to me, even for a Xen crash.

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Jan Beulich
On 23.11.12 at 11:37, Daniel Kiper daniel.ki...@oracle.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter Anvin wrote: I still don't really get why it can't be isolated

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 10:37 +, Daniel Kiper wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: The crash region (as specified by crashkernel= on the Xen command line) is isolated from dom0. [...]

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 09:56 +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 22.11.12 at 18:37, H. Peter Anvin h...@zytor.com wrote: I actually talked to Ian Jackson at LCE, and mentioned among other That was me actually (this happens surprisingly often ;-)). things the bogosity of requiring a PUD page for

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Daniel Kiper
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51:55AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 11:37, Daniel Kiper daniel.ki...@oracle.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-23 Thread Daniel Kiper
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51:08AM +, Ian Campbell wrote: On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 10:37 +, Daniel Kiper wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +, Jan Beulich wrote: On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: The crash region (as specified by

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-22 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Daniel Kiper daniel.ki...@oracle.com writes: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:40:39AM -0800, ebied...@xmission.com wrote: Daniel Kiper daniel.ki...@oracle.com writes: Some kexec/kdump implementations (e.g. Xen PVOPS) could not use default functions or require some changes in behavior of

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-22 Thread H. Peter Anvin
The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system that contains a hypervisor. The reason for kdump is that on bare metal there are no other options, but in a hypervisor system the right thing should be for the

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-22 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Bullshit. This should be a separate domain. Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 22/11/12 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote: The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system that contains a

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-22 Thread H. Peter Anvin
I still don't really get why it can't be isolated from dom0, which would make more sense to me, even for a Xen crash. Andrew Cooper andrew.coop...@citrix.com wrote: On 22/11/2012 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote: The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly preposterous the

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

2012-11-20 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Daniel Kiper daniel.ki...@oracle.com writes: Some kexec/kdump implementations (e.g. Xen PVOPS) could not use default functions or require some changes in behavior of kexec/kdump generic code. To cope with that problem kexec_ops struct was introduced. It allows a developer to replace all or