Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Baker
On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > The practical tradeoff for virtual meetings is starting at 6am Pacific or 7am > Pacific. At that, you get at most a two-hour window for the meeting. Well, it often is a question of the specific group. The RSOC meets at 6:00 AM in New Zealand.

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 12/6/2011 2:43 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: The only other alternative, is to spread the pain around so that a series of meetings are held at different times. That way the people in one region are not always inconvenienced. Everyone has a meeting in the middle of the night once every three mee

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Hinden
On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > On 12/6/2011 11:02 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> ll of them. It's*Really*Hard* to find a time when it is daylight in Asia, >> Europe, and North America > > > Given that 7am Pacific is midnight in Tokyo, yeah, it's a bit difficult... > > The

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 12/6/2011 11:02 AM, Fred Baker wrote: ll of them. It's*Really*Hard* to find a time when it is daylight in Asia, Europe, and North America Given that 7am Pacific is midnight in Tokyo, yeah, it's a bit difficult... The practical tradeoff for virtual meetings is starting at 6am Pacific o

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Baker
On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > Note well : We could, today, do a really phenomenal technical job > hosting virtual meetings with telepresence. The technology exists, > today. The question is, what can we afford and what fits well with our > operations. > > Even if (say) Po

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > We are currently setting up an entirely virtual interim for MBONED, > probably for early January. One thing I have pushed for in the purely virtual interims is to have several short meetings, rather than one long one. This is driven by s

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:27 AM, John Leslie wrote: > Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> Next up: interim meetings. Some of the tools that we are talking about for remote participation wil

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread Wes Beebee
> Wes Beebee presented on what is now RFC 6204. I would > say that it partially worked; it was far from seamless. I want to say a big thank you to Fred on this one. It was not easy to setup nor was it easy to interact with the audience. However, I would say that I achieved all of my objectives a

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-06 Thread John Leslie
Marshall Eubanks wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >>> Next up: interim meetings. Some of the tools that we are talking >>> about for remote participation will also be useful for WG interim >>> meetings. Some interim

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-05 Thread Marshall Eubanks
We are currently setting up an entirely virtual interim for MBONED, probably for early January. Regards Marshall On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> Next up: interim meetings. Some of the tools that we are talking about for >>

Re: [vmeet] Getting input on remote participation in WG interim meetings

2011-12-05 Thread Fred Baker
On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Next up: interim meetings. Some of the tools that we are talking about for > remote participation will also be useful for WG interim meetings. Some > interim meetings are face-to-face with remote participants, others are > completely virtual. It