Re: RFC: a small addition to perlrun.pod

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Bailey
Peter Prymmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Charles Bailey wrote: | | > > What do folks here think of an addition to perlrun.pod such as this?: | > | > Looks like a good idea. Would it fit better into perlvms.pod? | | Thanks. The wording was intended to fit in with the wording of | perlrun.

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Bailey
Charles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | How about this as an alternative for finding VMSPIPE.COM: | | translate logical PERL_VMSPIPE_DURING_MAKE in LNM$PROCESS, | and if present, use it. | else look for a readable PERL_ROOT:[00]VMSPIPE.COM, if found use it. | ...oth

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Lane
> At 10:29 AM 4/3/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Dan Sugalski wrote: >> > couldn't succeed if that weren't the case) > > > >I think a hardcoded PERL_ROOT:[LIB] or an @INC lookup (though I'm not > >sure about @INC since miniperl does use it) runs into trouble with the > >"need" to have PERL_

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread PVHP
Chuck Lane wrote: > Well, as far as I can tell the *only* place having VMSPIPE.COM in > PERL_ROOT:[00] could *maybe* be an issue is during the Perl > build/test/install. > > But that all occurs in what (should be) a rather well controlled > environment. As has been mentioned, MMK and MMS do

Re: RFC: a small addition to perlrun.pod

2000-04-03 Thread PVHP
Charles Bailey wrote: > > What do folks here think of an addition to perlrun.pod such as this?: > > Looks like a good idea. Would it fit better into perlvms.pod? Thanks. The wording was intended to fit in with the wording of perlrun.pod, in particular the (Win32 port only) type env. var. lis

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread PVHP
Chuck Lane wrote: > I don't think so; checking the DESCRIP.MMS: > > install : $(MINIPERL_EXE) > @ @perl_setup.com > If F$TrnLnm("Sys") .nes. "" Then Deass SYS > $(MINIPERL) installperl > > So even if you play around with definitions of PERL_ROOT earlier, the > execut

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread PVHP
Craig A. Berry wrote: > At 10:23 PM -0500 3/31/00, Charles Lane wrote: > > > >Avoiding dependance on having the logicals set up properly *before* > >invoking "MMK test", sure... but MMK should be able to set up some > >logicals that the build and test code depend on. > > Isn't the problem that i

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread lane
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 11:17 AM 4/3/00 -0400, Charles Lane wrote: >> > How 'bout doing a regular @INC lookup, and installing vmspipe.com in >> > the library? >> >>Hmmmthat's got a ton of implications, you know. >> >>For example, a user's script mucks around with @INC and

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:17 AM 4/3/00 -0400, Charles Lane wrote: >This should have been CC:'d to vmsperl > >- Start of forwarded message[s] - >Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:15:47 EDT >From: lane (Charles Lane) @ DUPHY4.Physics.Drexel.Edu >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Lane
This should have been CC:'d to vmsperl - Start of forwarded message[s] - Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:15:47 EDT From: lane (Charles Lane) @ DUPHY4.Physics.Drexel.Edu Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ID 2330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on

Re: CPAN VMS:: modules

2000-04-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:50 AM 4/3/00 -0400, Charles Lane wrote: >But there's something odd: only a few of the VMS:: modules are >available via CPAN.pm, considerably fewer than are actually present on >CPAN. Note that "not available via CPAN.pm" generally means that the >modules in question, while archived on CPAN

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Bailey
"Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Isn't the problem that if MMS TEST defines or redefines PERL_ROOT and > you then proceed (as would ordinarily be the logical next step) to do > an MMS INSTALL you will be installing the build tree on top of itself > rather than in wherever PERL_ROOT

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Bailey
Charles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | A patch for the glob-basic test was posted here on 17 Mar. It's in the repository, but I think it just missed being wrapped into the 5.6.0 kit as sarathy was trying to minimize changes. The GLOB_NOCASE question is stil up in the air (briefly: would it

Re: RFC: a small addition to perlrun.pod

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Bailey
> What do folks here think of an addition to perlrun.pod such as this?: Looks like a good idea. Would it fit better into perlvms.pod? Regards, Charles Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CPAN VMS:: modules

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Lane
In the course of getting CPAN.pm working on VMS, some of the first modules that I tried building have been the VMS:: modules with fewer (zero!) embedded unixisms, installation should be smooth and easy. But there's something odd: only a few of the VMS:: modules are available via CPAN.pm, co

RE: Extremely non-portable hack required

2000-04-03 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
How about using LIB$GET_FOREIGN ? This returns the command line parameters without expanding file names. The command line is converted to upper-case, unless protected by double-quotes. [It is the CRTL which later converts it to lower-case.] The command name itself is not included, so for example:

Re: [ID 20000330.044] Not OK: perl v5.6.0 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-04-03 Thread lane
"Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 10:23 PM -0500 3/31/00, Charles Lane wrote: >> >>Avoiding dependance on having the logicals set up properly *before* >>invoking "MMK test", sure... but MMK should be able to set up some >>logicals that the build and test code depend on. > > Isn't