Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
>> > It was the perl module stuff. I can't for the *life* of me get >> > an answer about what to do about this from the namespace czars. >I'll run the issue by other czars. The issues are several. What is the namespace to use for pod related utilities and libraries? Should it be som

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
I suppose one could do something like this: % perl -e 'system {"perlsub"} qw/perlman -l/' /usr/local/man/man1/perlsub.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.0/pod/perlsub.pod /home/tchrist/perldoc/bin/perlsub --tom

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
>That was why I mentioned a $(LNS) Makefile macro. On unix it's >LNS= ln -s >and on VMS it's >LNS= copy >I think on NT it is either 'copy' or 'xcopy' Oh goodness, no! That defeats the whole purpose. First, you have update issues between binary and module. Secondly % ls /usr/local

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > It was the perl module stuff. I can't for the *life* of me get > > an answer about what to do about this from the namespace czars. I'll run the issue by other czars. -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dea

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:46:47PM -0700, Peter Prymmer wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Tom Christiansen wrote: > > > But what about linking? tcgrep.pm should be the same file > > as tcgrep the program. Every one of those .pm files is > > both a module and a program. > > That was why I ment

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Tom Christiansen wrote: > But what about linking? tcgrep.pm should be the same file > as tcgrep the program. Every one of those .pm files is > both a module and a program. That was why I mentioned a $(LNS) Makefile macro. On unix it's LNS= ln -s and on VMS it's LNS= c

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Tom Christiansen wrote: > >And now I have tested some of the functionality. perlman.pm apparently > >puts too much faith in the setting of $Config{pager} since on VMS we > >leave that to 'most' which was not installed on my machine I had to > >edit the two copies of Config.

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
>> OK, I have not yet tested any of the functionality but the first >> obvious thing is that the tar ball itself is chock full of sym links >> which are basically unix only (there are analogs on Win NT and Mac OS, >And now I have tested some of the functionality. perlman.pm apparently >puts too

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Peter Prymmer wrote: > OK, I have not yet tested any of the functionality but the first > obvious thing is that the tar ball itself is chock full of sym links > which are basically unix only (there are analogs on Win NT and Mac OS, And now I have tested some of the function

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
In case I wasn't clear, the state of affairs with the tarball was simply a snapshot of what my current world looked like. I was simply hoping the programs *ran*. I realize installation is a different thing. --tom

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
>OK, I have not yet tested any of the functionality but the first >obvious thing is that the tar ball itself is chock full of sym links >which are basically unix only (there are analogs on Win NT and Mac OS, >and logical names serve the purpose on VMS but the former do not >unpack with NT or Mac p

Re: Fwd: Perl problems on VMS

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Craig A. Berry wrote: > Mike, > > I've once again forwarded your message to the list; I'm not > especially fluent with the CGI.pm module and I think it was someone > else who asked for the version you were using. > > >From: "Flaherty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'[

Fwd: Perl problems on VMS

2000-09-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
Mike, I've once again forwarded your message to the list; I'm not especially fluent with the CGI.pm module and I think it was someone else who asked for the version you were using. >From: "Flaherty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Perl problem

Re: perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Tom Christiansen wrote: > I don't know what you guys use for reading the perldocs, but B is the default on VMS and is installed as a global symbol (think alias in {t}csh) via the PERL_SETUP.COM DCL script that is built as part of the Perl build on VMS. > there's a snapsho

[PATCH: 5.7.0] proper setting for isnan for DECC 5.3

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
The following patch allows the build on VAX VMS V6.2 with DEC C 5.3: diff -ru perl-5.7.0.orig/configure.com perl-5.7.0/configure.com --- perl-5.7.0.orig/configure.com Fri Sep 1 10:08:25 2000 +++ perl-5.7.0/configure.comFri Sep 8 13:26:43 2000 @@ -4747,7 +4747,7 @@ $ WC "d_inetaton='

Re: ignore last crinoid problem

2000-09-08 Thread lane
Peter Prymmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well that is a relief. As to your question about whether this was the > "best" place to discuss crinoid I do not know. But I certainly think > that this is a very good and appropriate place to discuss it and I > suspect that it may in fact be the best

RE: ignore last crinoid problem

2000-09-08 Thread Jordan Henderson
A CC: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldn't be a bad idea. There _might_ be someone using crinoid on that list who doesn't also read this list. Although, really, I kind of doubt it... > -Original Message- > From: Peter Prymmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 3:00 P

Re: ignore last crinoid problem

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Tom Pfau wrote: > My 'RMS$_DNR' problems were caused by cockpit error. I had copied the > crinoid files from my test system to the live system forgetting that I had > redirected a couple of logicals in TENTACLE.COM. Removing the offending > lines allows the site to work cor

ignore last crinoid problem

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Pfau
My 'RMS$_DNR' problems were caused by cockpit error. I had copied the crinoid files from my test system to the live system forgetting that I had redirected a couple of logicals in TENTACLE.COM. Removing the offending lines allows the site to work correctly. Thomas Pfau [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMA

Re: [PATCH (or RFC): 5.7.0] make the ran_tests intermediate file8.3 friendly

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Peter Prymmer wrote: > diff -ru perl-5.7.0.orig/Makefile.SH perl-5.7.0/Makefile.SH > --- perl-5.7.0.orig/Makefile.SH Mon Aug 28 18:05:57 2000 > +++ perl-5.7.0/Makefile.SHFri Sep 8 09:40:11 2000 > @@ -730,7 +730,7 @@ I neglected to mention that this worked just fi

[PATCH (or RFC): 5.7.0] make the ran_tests intermediate file 8.3friendly

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Prymmer
Hi, I would like to add t/ran_tests handling to the VMS Makefile, but when I looked at the current implementation I realized that at 9 characters the generated file is just over the 8.3 limitation of DOS/FAT16. Hence I propose the following modification to the only two files that currently menti

crinoid + VMS::IndexedFile = RMS$_DNR

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Pfau
I'm attempting to run our site under crinoid. It works fine if run directly from the web server using a 'map' directive. When I change this to an 'exec' to run under crinoid, attempts to access the data files with VMS::IndexedFile fail with '%RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavaila

RESOLVED: %RMS-F-IOP opening DECNET object under VMS 7.2

2000-09-08 Thread Brad Hughes
Larry Bohan has pointed out that using VMS::Stdio's vmsopen works correctly on 7.2-1. This doesn't explain why Perl's vanilla open doesn't work on 7.2-1 when it did on 7.1, but at least now there's a workaround. Whoever's got the VMSperl doc pumpkin smelling up their office might want to include

Re: %RMS-F-IOP opening DECNET object under VMS 7.2

2000-09-08 Thread Brad Hughes
"Craig A. Berry" wrote: [...] > This will probably do it. I don't have DECNET set up on my 7.2-1 > machine (or any other nodes to talk to), so I don't know what it does > remotely. If this works on 7.1 but not 7.2-1, then the C RTL has > probably been "improved" in ways that break what you are d

[PATCH] test stuff (was RE: extra LFs in test output...)

2000-09-08 Thread lane
Some more details on the "extra LF's issue"... What we have is the following heirarchy of processes: MMS/K [.vms]test.com perl (running some test) In the old (pre-piping mod) scheme of things, the SYS$ERROR output of a subprocess would willy-nilly be combined with i

perldoc for you?

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Christiansen
I don't know what you guys use for reading the perldocs, but there's a snapshot of a new version out there in http://doriath.perl.com/misc/perlman-alpha0.tar.gz There are announcements on comp.lang.perl.misc and p5p about it for more details. I've only tested it on a couple different syste

RE: extra LFs in test output (was Re: current status of 6919with3 patches on DECC V6.0-001)

2000-09-08 Thread Jordan Henderson
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Prymmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:58 PM > To: Jordan Henderson > Cc: 'John Peacock'; Craig A. Berry; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: extra LFs in test output (was Re: current status of > 6919with3 patches on DE

RE: openpid.t test failure in 5.7.0

2000-09-08 Thread Jordan Henderson
I saw this same behavior, but I attributed it to having an incompatible PERL_ROOT logical defined when I was trying to do the build. I've not seen it since, but it may have been a coincidence that it stopped happening after I cleaned up my environment. > -Original Message- > From: Craig