RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Carl Friedberg
Craig, By "bad" I didn't mean anything judgmental :-) (though you could fault me for a terrible choice of a non-judgmental word, huh). We've run into various troublesome logial names; the one that bit me was "TEST". >From readme.vms troublesome logicals and symbols are: TMP "LOGICAL"

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Carl Friedberg wrote: > Whatever, it's worth a mention, as it's been uncovered by great > detective work. It was indeed good work. How about applying the following patch to perl@8585? Would anyone object? diff -ru perl.8585.org/README.vms perl.8585/README.vms --- perl.85

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Craig A. Berry wrote: > At 11:13 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > > Warning: I could not locate your pod2man program. As > >a last choice, > > I will look for the file to which the > >logical name POD2MAN > >

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 04:43 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:40:41, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>At 4:03 PM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >>> >>> Well, I'm trying the builds on the system that has the v5.6-003 C >>>

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 4:45 PM -0500 2/1/01, Carl Friedberg wrote: >"DOWN" > >Ok, who's the "bad logical names" pumpking? It's not really a bad logical name; it's a more general issue arising from the fact that the device component of a path spec undergoes logical name translation before the unix-to-vms syntax chang

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Carl Friedberg
"DOWN" Ok, who's the "bad logical names" pumpking? Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0 OK, found the problem. This test doesn't pass when

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:40:41, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 4:03 PM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >> >> Well, I'm trying the builds on the system that has the v5.6-003 C >> complier now, and it seems the Sigjmp_buf errors are all gone, >>

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread WarrenPaul
Title: RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0 OK, found the problem.  This test doesn't pass when you have DOWN defined as a logical name :)  I guess I can consider this a PASS, right? - Paul - ISD::[PERL-5_6_0]> @[.vms]test .ex

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 4:03 PM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > > Well, I'm trying the builds on the system that has the v5.6-003 C > complier now, and it seems the Sigjmp_buf errors are all gone, > but the errors relating to fcntl() are all still present. I'm >

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:04:28, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 03:28 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >>2) Lo-and-Behold, I've got v5.6-003 on another node in the cluster. >>Don't know how it got there, and I really don't care. But

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 03:28 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >2) Lo-and-Behold, I've got v5.6-003 on another node in the cluster. >Don't know how it got there, and I really don't care. But >it's there and I'm having much better luck under it. Still >

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Jordan Henderson
The new Compaq educational program might be able to get you a newer C compiler very cheaply. IIRC, basically for the cost of media with possibly a small yearly fee for the whole Compaq catalog. There is some problem with the license being single user or something (David Mathog has complained bit

RE: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:17:26, Jordan Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The new Compaq educational program might be able to get you a newer C compiler >very cheaply. IIRC, basically for the cost of media with possibly a small >yearly fee for the whole Compaq catalog. There is some p

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:34:57, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 01:15 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >> >At 01:01 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >> >> >> >>OK, Dan. Here's IO.LIS for your perusal. /LIST/SHOW=(HEADERS,SOURCE) are >>

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 02:05 PM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:34:57, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>You basically need to upgrade your C compiler then try the build again. > > >Ouch. With most all development here moving to Tru64 (OpenVMS >w

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Craig A. Berry wrote: > At 10:01 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > > >Do you have a package to recommend that is possibly smaller in scope > >than EmuMail, that would have some modicum of use once installed, that > >I could tr

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Prymmer
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:44:42, Peter Prymmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > > > >> Uncompressing of the .tar files I did on a Unix box. I then FTP the .tar > >> files to

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
For those of you who might be wondering, we did track down the ultimate reason for the errors being thrown when building the perl modules. It turns out that the version of Dec C that was being used to build things was 5.0-003, a rather old and creaky version of things. Perl itself had been bui

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 04:46 PM 1/31/2001 -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >At 03:08 PM 1/31/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:06:18, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>You might want to try MMK from MadGoat instead, though it's a matter of > personal preference,

MMK (was Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules)

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 3:56 PM -0800 1/31/01, Peter Prymmer wrote: >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: > >> Nope. MMK's more forgiving of things than MMS is, which is the only reason >> I mentioned it. (MMS won't let you redefine things that MMK and >>Unix make will) > >BTW I'd like to take this opportunity

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 12:53 PM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >$ perl Makefile.PL INST_LIB=[-.temp] INST_ARCHLIB=[-.temp.vms] > >I really don't understand the significance of these parameters; Why are you specifying these explicitly at all? -- _

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 11:13 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > Warning: I could not locate your pod2man program. As >a last choice, >I will look for the file to which the >logical name POD2MAN >points when MMK is invoked. > > >**

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:41:59, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Writing Descrip.MMS for IO >> CC/DECC >> >>/Include=[]/Standard=Relaxed_ANSI/Prefix=All/Obj=.obj/List/Machine/Defin >> >>e=("VERSION=""1.20""","XS_VERSION=""1.20""")/Include=(perl_root:[lib.

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:13 AM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:08:43, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>At 10:01 AM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:00:22, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> At 8

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 10:01 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >Do you have a package to recommend that is possibly smaller in scope >than EmuMail, that would have some modicum of use once installed, that >I could try out to see if it WILL build and install against this

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:08:43, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:01 AM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >>On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:00:22, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>At 8:52 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote:

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:43 AM 2/1/2001 -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >At 10:01 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > >>Do you have a package to recommend that is possibly smaller in scope >>than EmuMail, that would have some modicum of use once installed, >> that >>I coul

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:01 AM 2/1/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:00:22, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>At 8:52 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >>> I would have assumed that the perl binary was built on this >>> machine. >>

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 8:58 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > >I'll try the /MACRO_DEBUG (sp?) suggestion I saw earlier to try to >fathom the error Craig claims is odd. /macro=__debug__=1, which causes the make to add /noopt/debug/list/show=all to the compile qualifiers. At

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Prymmer
Not that it should necessarily make any difference, but is the build tree on an ODS 5 volume? Peter Prymmer On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Craig A. Berry wrote: > At 09:35 AM 1/31/2001 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >During the test phase, I had one failure - > > > >[.lib]vmsfspec..FAILE

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:00:22, "Craig A. Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 8:52 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >> I would have assumed that the perl binary was built on this machine. >> Other test suites that the installation of perl incorporated seem t

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 8:52 AM -0500 2/1/01, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:44:42, Peter Prymmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >If you do not mind it running GUNZIP.EXE on VMS is also a possibility. >>I'd venture to say that most folks who make use of perl on VMS, hence the >>CPAN mod

OK: perl v5.6.1 +v5.6.1-TRIAL2 on VMS_AXP V6.2-1H3

2001-02-01 Thread system
This is a success report for perl from [EMAIL PROTECTED], generated with the help of perlbug 1.33 running under perl v5.6.1. Perl reported to build OK on this system. --- Flags: category=install severity=none --- Site configuration information for perl v5.6.1: Configured by system at Thu

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:43:22, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 04:46 PM 1/31/2001 -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >>At 03:08 PM 1/31/2001 -0500, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: >> >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:06:18, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>You might want to tr

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:44:42, Peter Prymmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818 wrote: > >> Uncompressing of the .tar files I did on a Unix box. I then FTP the .tar >> files to OpenVMS and run VMSTAR to split them out. Now I'm manually trying to >> b

Re: OpenVMS+Perl 5.0.0305A (?) and EmuMail modules

2001-02-01 Thread J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:46:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC/DECC /Include=[]/Standard=Relaxed_ANSI/Prefix=All/Obj=.obj/List/Machine /Define=("VERSION=""1.20""","XS_VERSION=""1.20""") /Include=(perl_root:[lib.VMS_AXP.5_00503.CORE])/Optimize IO.c Sigjmp_buf je_buf;