Re: [VoiceOps] STIR/SHAKEN Discussion: Will it help?

2019-12-31 Thread Mary Lou Carey
I wouldn't say it's all that easy because you have to be certified as a CLEC, Interconnected VOIP, or Wireless provider in order to get access to numbering resources. A lot of people missed that part in the guidelines because it was not worded clearly and they didn't know that you can't get NXX

Re: [VoiceOps] STIR/SHAKEN Discussion: Will it help?

2019-12-31 Thread Calvin Ellison
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:54 AM Mark Lindsey wrote: > > My presentation focused Bad Actors who don't register with anybody. But > after my presentation, Jon Peterson (who wrote much of the SHAKEN RFCs) > added another security gap in the American implementation: anybody can get > an OCN and CLLI

Re: [VoiceOps] STIR/SHAKEN Discussion: Will it help?

2019-12-31 Thread Pete Eisengrein
> The idea of "authenticating the incoming calls" only applies if you're really going to block incoming calls. Sort of. Even if the goal is to update the CLID (e.g. Spam likely) one needs to authenticate it. That is, to do the verify the Identity. > anybody can get an OCN and CLLI code Agreed.

Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, I did conflate Goldfield Telecom with Goldfield Telephone in the original post. Sorry. The site with the busted SSL also seems to have been hijacked. The first several times I tried getting to it, it redirected me to a bunch of BS. I did find this site: http://www.goldfieldaccess-ia.co

Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread John Levine
In article <1464181553.3249.1577818986090.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, >it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny >that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange. A

Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread Calvin Ellison
Could it have something to do with the FCC sounding the death knell for access stimulation? "their end user relationships with high volume calling providers were terminated" https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/fcc1994.pdf from: NECA Washington Watch reply-to: washingtonwa...@neca

Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http:/

Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 12/31/19 09:16, Mike Hammett wrote: Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need. Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello". When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the

[VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need. Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello". When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the desired conference brdige. When

Re: [VoiceOps] STIR/SHAKEN Discussion: Will it help?

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Lindsey
> On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Pete Eisengrein wrote: > > Thoughts on implementation/technologies? Where in the network would you do > your assertion (softswitch, SBC, other?), Many of the implementations allow SHAKEN over SIP, using a 302 to add the Identity header. This is much more conven

Re: [VoiceOps] STIR/SHAKEN Discussion: Will it help?

2019-12-31 Thread Pete Eisengrein
> The solution, of course, is to use SIP over TCP. Agreed, but that too has implications. Maybe your carriers support TCP, maybe they don't. Also, the memory footprint on gear just got bigger to manage the TCP overhead. We've also seen odd incidents around TCP (not releasing sessions and exhausti