Okay, so there would be a formal transaction specifically for the block of numbers, and never anything "casual"?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Carey" <mary...@backuptelecom.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net> Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:18:50 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 It's not an intermediate number unless you LEASE the numbers to the other carrier. Letting them take the TN that a former customer had is the same as porting. You only need to file U1 and leave any numbers ported or donated to another carrier due to a customer move in the assigned column. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2024-03-24 07:25 PM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote: > https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/NRUF/GeoJobAid.pdf > > “Resold” services should also be treated like ported numbers, > meaning the carrier transferring the service to another carrier or > non-carrier entity should classify the numbers as “Assigned” and > the numbers should not be counted by the receiving carrier. These > numbers should not be considered intermediate numbers because the > intermediate classification only applies to blocks of numbers obtained > from or given to another carrier or non-carrier entity for future > assignment. Numbers transferred with resold services already have > established customer assignments and therefore cannot be used for > future assignment. > > So it seems like if I transfer a block to someone else (anyone but an > end-user) for them to maintain in inventory or we receive a block of > number from someone else, then that's an intermediate number. If it's > on a ones-and-twos basis, fulfilled per end-user request, then it's an > assigned number. That seems difficult to maintain an accurate count > of. If I request numbers from VoIP.MS, Bandwidth, Peerless, etc., it's > an assigned number. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ------------------------- > > From: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net> > To: "Mike Hammett" <voice...@ics-il.net> > Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:39:12 PM > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 > > What are some examples of when someone would report intermediate > numbers? The documentation gives a technical answer, but not a > real-world example. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ------------------------- > > From: "Mike Hammett via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> > To: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 6:11:06 PM > Subject: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 > > I'm just learning about NRUF 502. > As I read the documentation (and some Googling): > Every phone number in the blocks I have are either Assigned, > Intermediate, Reserved, Aging, or Administrative. > Ported out numbers count as assigned. > Returned ported numbers are available. > I do this for blocks that I got from NANPA. > I do not do it for ported numbers. > > I'm supposed to be able to tell in Neustar SOA what numbers have > disconnected. I've reached out to them to figure out how to do that. I > couldn't find documentation that was direct enough for me to know it > was the right thing. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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