mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of
Nathan Anderson via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:39 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
That note about RMP vs. numbering authorization mi
on via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:39 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
That note about RMP vs. numbering authorization might be *technically*
correct purely from the perspective of what t
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From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of
Nathan Anderson via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:39 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
That note about RMP vs. numbering
ps.org] On Behalf Of
Nathan Anderson via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:54 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
Also note that not all OCN types are accepted by STI-PA. Whatever OCN
you supply
boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of
Nathan Anderson via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:54 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
Also note that not all OCN types are accepted by STI-PA. Whate
Anderson
Cc: Voice Ops; Mary Lou Carey
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
Correct - no issues whatsoever with them accepting it
We used Sansay for the cert and signing - they again made it super easy
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 12:44 AM
Mary Lou Carey; Voice Ops
> *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
> certificate by June 30th!
>
>
>
> You can obtain the IPES OCN without the FCC Numbering Waiver - I know this
> first hand as that's exactly what we did
>
>
>
> Fr
, June 6, 2023 9:10 PM
To: Nathan Anderson
Cc: Mary Lou Carey; Voice Ops
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
You can obtain the IPES OCN without the FCC Numbering Waiver - I know this
first hand as that's exactly what we did
From the looks
rier by iconectiv
> *without* having obtained the FCC numbering waiver?
>
> -- Nathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Nathan
> Anderson via VoiceOps
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:54 PM
CC numbering waiver?
-- Nathan
-Original Message-
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Nathan
Anderson via VoiceOps
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 5:54 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certif
ou Carey'
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
That note about RMP vs. numbering authorization might be *technically* correct
purely from the perspective of what the STI-PA themselves requires. But my
understanding is that to obt
n Anderson
Cc: Peter Beckman; 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
Just so you know there were a few changes made to the process in the 9th
hour of the deadline last year. The Robocall Mitigation plan took the
place of the require
ither.
David Frankel
ZipDX® LLC
St. George, UT USA
Tel: 1-800-FRANKEL (1-800-372-6535)
Visit My Robocall Blog
-----Original Message-
From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Mary Lou
Carey
via VoiceOps
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 2:01 PM
To: Nathan Anderson
Cc: Voice Ops
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All car
June 2, 2023 4:09 PM
To: Mary Lou Carey; Peter Beckman
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
Mary's right: there are a lot of moving parts and "hidden costs" to doing this.
What follows is largely a "brain dump&qu
,
-- Nathan
-Original Message-
From: Mary Lou Carey [mailto:mary...@backuptelecom.com]
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 1:16 PM
To: Peter Beckman
Cc: Nathan Anderson; 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
I can only give you a bal
en
looking around even after asking here, and have yet to find any
first-
or even second-hand accounts one way or the other.
-- Nathan
-Original Message-
From: David Frankel [mailto:dfran...@zipdx.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'; Nathan Anderson
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
ran...@zipdx.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'; Nathan Anderson
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
I am not an attorney; this is not legal advice.
The (primary) purpose of STIR/SHAKEN was not to h
to find any first-
or even second-hand accounts one way or the other.
-- Nathan
-Original Message-
From: David Frankel [mailto:dfran...@zipdx.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'; Nathan Anderson
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] All carriers must
David Frankel wrote:
> Not wanting to be bamboozled, the FCC quickly (in FCC-time) cleverly
> shortens the "small provider" extension period from 2 years to 1 for
> "non-facilities based providers."
Others who have been around and read past posts of mine here might call me a
broken record on
l Blog
-Original Message-
From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Nathan Anderson
via VoiceOps
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 8:35 PM
To: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate
by June 30th!
UGH, I mixed up "origination" and "termination&q
3 7:24 PM
To: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
Thanks both to you and Mary Lou for your thoughtful responses.
Okay, so just to be clear, the remaining carriers for whom the June 2023
deadline applies to are providers who pro
--Original Message-
From: David Frankel [mailto:dfran...@zipdx.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Mary Lou Carey'; Nathan Anderson
Cc: 'Voice Ops'
Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
I am not an attorney; this i
01 PM
To: Nathan Anderson
Cc: Voice Ops
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate
by June 30th!
US telecom brain trust? Wow..I don't even know what to say, but I'm
thinking I should send my 21-year-old your way because he thinks he's a lot
smarter than I a
: voiceops@voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN
certificate by June 30th!
There was an extension for "small" providers (under 100k lines) ends
on June 30, 2023.
That extension was basically was targeting rural LECs. It was amended
so it only inc
--Original Message-
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Graves via VoiceOps
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:12 PM
To: Mary Lou Carey; Alex Balashov
Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
The purpose of STIR/SHAKEN is to verify that the carrier knows their
customer and that the customer is NOT making robocalls or fraudulent
calls. It doesn't matter who the caller is or who the called party is.
It matters that the call was made using a telephone number and that the
type of
I once again hate to press this point further, but what exactly is meant by
"your customer uses" and "another party"?
I don't mean this from a place of needless pedantry: there's a legitimate
question here around what the limits of this concept are. Does the customer
have to be human, and do
p.com
-Original Message-
From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Mary Lou Carey via
VoiceOps
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:46 PM
To: Alex Balashov
Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
Importance: High
Any carrier that
esday, May 31, 2023 15:47
To: Mary Lou Carey
Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by
June 30th!
> On May 31, 2023, at 3:45 PM, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
>
> Any carrier that provides originating VOIP or a combination of
Anytime your customer uses a DID or Telephone Number to make a phone
call to another party, that is an originating voice service. If the
network you use / lease operates via a VOIP (Voice Over Internet
Protocol) switch then you must have a STIR / SHAKEN certificate. If the
underlying carrier
> On May 31, 2023, at 3:45 PM, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
>
> Any carrier that provides originating VOIP or a combination of originating
> VOIP / PSTN / Wireless VOICE services needs to get its own certificate
I hate to press this point further, but must: what exactly are originating VoIP
Any carrier that provides originating VOIP or a combination of
originating VOIP / PSTN / Wireless VOICE services needs to get its own
certificate. My understanding is that only those who provide PSTN-only
voice services do not need to have their own STIR/SHAKEN token because
the technology
Hi Mary Lou,
Thank you for this.
A stupid - and certainly belated - question: how exactly is a carrier defined,
in the letter of the regulations underlying this deadline? Or to put it another
way: who, as a VoIP service provider of one sort or another, _doesn't_ have to
get their own token?
Hey all,
I just wanted to send out a reminder that the drop dead date for all
carriers to get THEIR OWN STIR/SHAKEN certificate is coming up on June
30th. You can still have an underlying carrier sign your calls for you,
but they must sign with YOUR token..not their own! You have to
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